TheOneBlueGecko:Unless the kidnapping is a passive role, where someone is doing it without sending in role PMs and meaning it, it would have to be a town role because all active roles are town roles.
Wait... this is probably just me being stupid (to be fair, I was distracted by finals for most of the game, so I haven't been able to keep up as much as I should), but doesn't killing someone count as an "active" role? Usually there's one role who PMs the host to say who will die, and I view this role as active. (We really need a list of roles on an active/passive scale.)
But yeah, the kidnapper probably IS a town role that needs to kidnap people to see their roles or whatever.
Although, I have another thought about Rollo's death: what if he needed to die? It's possible his role has an ability that activates upon death, or that the conversion can't go through with him alive, or something—he just needed to die. I'm also wondering if maybe there's a connection between this and the lack of kills on Nights 3, 4 and 6. If we can find out his role's ability, we MIGHT be able to get an idea of why he was killed. (On that note, Sailor Jupiter has lightning-based powers and a little bit of nature-based, if that's any indication/help.)
Also, living players:
⇒ 14. Francis the Frog
⇒ 24. The Muffinman
We still have thirteen people left, and probably three or four Mafia left. Can't be 100% sure based on the flavor text, but it indicates at least four (including Rollo), and five if the leader's wasn't one of the first two to speak. That means Matt probably started with five Mafia. Alternatively, he could have started with four and had two conversions, possibly a traitor/conversion combo. ...Actually, since none of the Mafia roles are supposed to be active, there's PROBABLY a traitor. I'm guessing it was on Night 4, when no one died (or at least not by Mafia) and the "Something has happened" message appeared.
With my finals mostly done, I can finally start doing some more serious speculating/analyzing.
Some random speculation. To start off, I'm curious about the fact that Orangelink was kidnapped instead of killed. Yesterday essentially confirmed him as a town role, so this makes it likely that the kidnapper's Mafia.
On that note, the fact they killed Rollo intrigues me. While there was a sizable wagon on him and he would likely be killed today or investigated last night, using the night phase to kill him is actually counterproductive; even if he was somewhat guaranteed to die the next day, it would mean one less kill in the Mafia's favor. Expanding on that, it would be more logical to kill either Orangelink—who is almost essentially confirmed as town—or ininja, who Orangelink claimed was cleared.
Interestingly enough, yesterday Spaces voted for Rollo even before the bandwagon on her, citing his vote on Pokemonfreak for "laying low" despite doing so himself as her reason. I'm not sure if she planned to change her vote later, but this COULD suggest that she was planning to bus him.
Well, I have class in half an hour and need to get homework done so I have to stop now, but just some preliminary thoughts.
I guess you guys have a point there about it being a choice thing. There are so many labels/terms that are too similar/personalized; it's confusing sometimes. Again, though, I've usually see the difference described as bi being attracted to people's bodies, and pan attracted to people's mind. That's just my interpretation of that description.
Also, Fools, I didn't mean to imply that children are inherently straight. I'm guessing you're referring to this part:
I figure that it's because usually you'll find yourself generally more attracted to one sex/gender when you're younger, but then as you grow older and hormones start to kick in, you'll find yourself attracted to people of the other sex. Even if it doesn't happen then, you might not realize because the right person just hasn't come along yet.
What I meant is that as kids, they're usually attracted to one sex/gender, either the other one or the same as their biological sex. Then as they get older, they'll start to find themselves also attracted to the other gender/sex (as in, the one they weren't previously attracted to), in part thanks to hormones. I guess I could have worded it better. Some people are more sexually/romantically aware than others; some will know what they are as children, and others won't realize until well into adulthood. Asexuality in particular isn't noticeable until your hormones start to kick in, since little kids usually don't experience sexual attraction (or at least they REALLY shouldn't).
Although, you make a good point about the more open environment. I can't believe I forgot that when I just did a paper for psych discussing the effects of the environment on behavior. :P
Congrats on figuring it out! It seems like bi or pan may be harder sexualities to notice than straight or gay. I figure that it's because usually you'll find yourself generally more attracted to one sex/gender when you're younger, but then as you grow older and hormones start to kick in, you'll find yourself attracted to people of the other sex. Even if it doesn't happen then, you might not realize because the right person just hasn't come along yet. Heck, I thought of myself as "pan" for a while because it felt more open, but I still didn't find myself romantically attracted to any girls until the most amazing and talented girl I've ever met transferred into my school. Then there are "exceptions" who aren't what you're usually attracted to, but you still find yourself interested in. To top it all off, people who are bi/pan can still have a preference for one sex over the other. This just makes it trickier to figure out, and once you do you'll still occasionally have doubts about whether you're bi/pan or homosexual and in denial about it.
On a related note, I finally figured out the difference between bisexual and pansexual. Previously I've seen it described as bi being attracted to the body and pan attracted to the mind, but I only just realized the exact implications.
Bisexual implies there are only two genders: male and female. As such, that means the person is attracted to someone regardless of their physical body/sex.
However, pansexual takes into account that there are various gender identities. As such, they're attracted to the person regardless of their gender, even if their gender doesn't match their own physical body.
I hope I said it in a way that makes sense. I feel stupid for not understanding it sooner. >_<
Day XXY: I am still lost. The isolation has gotten to me, with my only companion being the stone-quiet Señor Rock. His silence was almost as maddening as the isolation itself, but he still provided valuable company. My hunger reached its peak and I became desperate, so I ate Señor Rock. I had to shift my insides to digest him. Afterwards it occurred to me that I could have shifted away the internal organs that require food and sustenance. Oh well, too late now. At this point my energy is rapidly depleting. I don't know if I can hold out much longer. Señor Rocky, I fear I shall meet you in the afterlife soon... I hope that you will finally grace me with your voice then. ＼(_ _)ノ
Day XXX. I don't know how long it's been since I was kidnapped. I feel cold and hungry, so thirsty... I have not had a drop of water to drink since entering captivity. I feel like I am losing memory of sunlight's light and warmth, it has been so long since I last saw it... At this rate I fear that I will die of hunger rather than the Mafia or noose. m(_ _,)m
Kyo:mmmmaybe we shouldn't blame the countries that people are from for things people did, just sayin'
I don't, but others will... >_<
Anyways, I really can't understand why people have trouble understanding asexuality. So we're not into sex. There are people who don't like being competitive, or don't like hanging out with others that often, or drinking alcohol... People who like socializing spend time with friends; people who prefer isolation spend time alone at home. Asexuality is no different.