I think it adds depth, and I like it. It's one of those things that no one will consciously notice, but will make your comic look a little better than the comic of someone who didn't bother with similar efforts at depth. And it's not that much more work.
Tibbittz-- Thank you so very much for reviewing!!.. Sounds like page design and format stability is something I've got to work on in the long run. Your comment about redrawing earlier pages to suit is dead-on, but intimidating, after the comic has been put down for a few months. (Real life move, etc). Will have to get back into the swing of it. :)
No, no, don't REDRAW the earlier pages -- they're wonderful the way they are. Just cut the panels up from each other and reorient them to match the standard comic page thing you have going now.
So, take these six panels --
-- and do this to them --
-- using the existing art, which is, again, wonderful as is. I'm doing these kinds of edits where necessary in my own earlier work, but while redrawing as little as possible.
Mayyday:Any mention of comics IN a comic will remind me that I'm reading a comic and snap me out of the story.
I like comics in comics. I love that Steve Rogers drew Captain America comics.
One of the conceits of Eternal Knights is that Erica has been a fan of Artemis comics from a young age -- the comics being woefully inaccurate suppositions based on the urban legend of Kathryn as Artemis, rather than on her actual life. There's a homemade one on her work desk that she drew as a kid (behind the Pleb Boi), and there will be a stack of them in her apartment in issue #5, along with framed prints on the wall.*
Eternal Knights is set in a world full of all the superheroes and mad science and magic we all thought were only fiction, but it turns out it's all just hidden from the world via a psychic Cloaker field. In the world of EK, you might have superpowers and not even know it.
I also don't mind books about writers and movies and making movies. I really like meta jokes and commentary though. Like, a lot.
*I just now realized how much extra work that's gonna be. Shit.
If you get a chance, would you mind looking at the Art of Wrenliness? It's just a couple of weeks in and is by no means a professional effort; I am learning as I go. It would be nice to turn it into something bigger and better in the long run, though.
I've been looking forward to this one. :)
First off, I hate this template. It's one of the ugliest offered here. I'd switch if I were you.
1. The art is gorgeous and ery natural. Panel 1 is funny. The whole page is funny, but the dialogue gets a little less inspired as we go, i.e. EVERYONE EVERYWHERE can stop using "Wait for it" now. Please. The smiley-as-dialogue in the last panel is sort of just odd, especially as you've drawn such wonderful expressions already.
2. This page is funny, but the reading order is difficult. Apparently the tall panel is read third, and then the two under the first two read after that? This would work better if this page were ordered taller than wide, and then the tall pane would be to the left of the last two panels which would then be stacked on each other.
3. Clever and funny stuff BUT the dialogue is hard to follow with no balloons and GIANT-ASS free-floating tails. That last line, ironically, kills me.
4. This is so amazingly inventive and funny. Dead squirrel - check, CCC, check and double-check. Awesome.
6. Wow, that last panel(s); it's marvelously demented, like if Warren Ellis wrote a picture book.
8. The joke in panel 1 would work better if the panel was flipped; she's reacting to a monoluge that hasn't physically happened in "comic time" yet.
ALSO: As you've changed to a comic book format here, I'd recommend going back to the first pages and reorienting them to match. Everything would be congruous, and a couple of the pages would be easier to read that way.
9. "Timmy", ha. I adore that.
10. The lettering fits the art even better now.
11. The exchange rate aside is completely useless, but at least it's cute.
12. ...and we're sideways again... why?
13. ...and we're vertical again... why? And, um... should a kid really be describing something as "orgasmic"? Anyway, the Ellis-esque darkness to this brightly illustrated tale continues to amuse me greatly.
14. This page is GORGEOUS.
15. Funny, and more gorgeous.
REINVENTING THE WORD BALLOON WHEEL:
Everyone please stop doing this. Those little blobs of color to indicate the speaker? Useless and distracting. If a standard balloon was good enough for everyone from Einser to Kirby to Jim Davis to bloody everyone making pro comics and 99% of indy comics, they're good enough for you too. Simple. No fuss, no muss. I HATE MUSS.
16. SO beautiful. Like that Darren Hayes song "So Beautiful".
I MISS SAVAGE GARDEN WAH.
23. This page looks great, but the progression of the balloons in panel 1 is really hard to follow.
Extra: I laughed. So well-written. Gotta move stuff like this out of the main archive, IMO. But, whatever, it's pretty great.
25. "Stone is not flammable", ha. Love this.
26. The balloon wrapped around the cat's head is... odd.
27. "Hush, cannon fodder", wow. So wonderfully, casually dark.
28. I don't like long thought balloon exposition. This has all been pretty cinematic, and now it's suddenly almost a prose novel. I think it's always better to get info across in scenes. If what they're thinking is so important, it can be said out loud then or revealed in revelatory fashion later. IMO
31. Heh, she's standing on the cat. Pretty, moody page.
32. Tiny dagger, har.
Hiatus cat is pretty.
This comic is kinda fucking awesome. It's the kind of unique approach and vision that the webcomics platform offer the right kind of freedom for. It's smart and genuinely artistic and almost a pure joy to read -- the almost caveat coming not from any instrinsic issue with the content, but reather the slightly awkward shifting; this format no this now this one lettering no that one instead...
I was almost 100% certain I'd want to subscribe to this one, and I was not wrong. This is the best "weird" comic I think I've encountered so far. Clever and oddball without being a plotless mess. Artistically expressive without being sloppy haphazard hue-slingling wankery.
MrKarosu:Eh, why not? A review of Stikland won't kill me. I'm slowly getting my revamp together before continuing on with the story. I did get a decent amount of criticism a few months back. Main reason I've decided to revamp my whole comic. I have a side project I'm working on with a friend that won't be stick figure oriented, in case you thought that this was all I can draw.
I'd like to stick HER land!
...almost makes sense.
I like the Nonexistant Comics' logo, very cool.
Comic 2 Chapter 00 is an interesting piece. Makes me want to know more.
I'm on Comic 2 Page 1, and I don't understand these white blobs around the people. I'd say the stomach effect is A BIT LOUD. The panel-to-panel staging is odd too; I had to look at panel several times to understand that GRRGLEboy had not teleported. In the last two panels, the bread in the foreground should have been copy>pasted instead of redrawn; it would have added to the effect. Top panel is a wonderful establishing shot.
There is NO REASON to overlap these balloons onto the figures. If you're GOING to overlap, you have to do so more fully than in panel 3, where it looks like the balloon is stuck on his hair. In panel 5, the tip of tail overlaps distractingly onto his face; a tiny black needle. In panel 8, the tail strokes his eyeball. This is all very distracting.
The chapter title is distracted as FOOK. It's almost unbearbly ugly; speaking of "shattered harmony", there's certainly no harmonious overlap between the art and story and the look of the title lettering. The stroke is unneeded, and the typeface is all wrong.
Panel 6 overlaps panel 5; in doing so, the hand in 5 and the leg in 6 nearly sync and look more connected than not, which is visually confusing.
SFX THAT ADD LITERALLY NOTHING:
The DASH in panel one is more useless than my third nipple. You've drawn a running character with speed lines. You might as well write BARRELS in panel 2, and SQUINT in panel 3, and et cetera in all the remaining panels.
Page 3 "I'm not here for your bread." I love that line. That's one of my favorite lines I've read all year. It's really dryly funny.
Page 4 His less than enthused agreement is funny. I'm assuming the big green blob in the last panel is meant to be trees? With "RUSSLL"-ing leaves? If so, it's spelled "rustle", and it's the least necessary sound effect I've ever seen.
Page 6 TURTLE! This pointless sound effect I kinda LOVE. It's really funny.
Page 10 I'd lose the thought bubble things in the last couple panels. We already know what he's running from; he doesn't need to tell us he's not telling the guards.
Though rudimentary, the art mostly communicates. The writing is MUCH better than the art. I almost want to subscribe to find out what happens next. I see it's been a while since your last update. This is an odd but promising start with some genuinely funny moments. I hope you make more.
shastab24:Tibbittz, if I had been manipulative, I would have ensured you get one of my comics. I love your art. Not knocking anybody else, but dang you are good. Granted, the people that did get my comics will still produce something awesome, so I do know fun will be had in any way.
Thanks, that is a great compliment. I like the idea that I can draw well enough to tempt people toward supervillainy. That's my take, anyway. :)