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"Ocean Labyrinth, one that I've wanted to do for 8 years.", 6th Apr 2012, 12:47 AM #1
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So, Blaeringr on here agreed to help me with one of my comics. He has the perfect artistic style for the story I want to tell in OL.
I usually don't go on forums and say, HEY READ MY COMIC FOOL, because I think people will see my comic listed places and will check them out if it interests them.
This story I've had with me since I was 12/13, so 8 years. It's based off of a place I went to when I lived on the coast, but it's not just a day-to-day adventure comedy about the wacky adventures of Kiki.
I've tried many times to make the story come to life, but my words were juvenile at the time, and my art doesn't have the right style for what needs to be seen.
As with almost all of my stories, this one has a deeper meaning and I want to see if people can connect with it and feel something, or feel for the characters. The same goes for The Academy and Demon Wings, but I don't want people to skip over this one just because it isn't anime or cartoonish.
7th Apr 2012, 4:35 PM #2
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Here's a link to the comic:
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And a little sample:
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10th Apr 2012, 8:12 PM #3
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your artist needs to learn how to draw hands.
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10th Apr 2012, 8:28 PM #4
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danielthecreator:your artist needs to learn how to draw hands.


I really love his style and I think his hands look great. Did you see the other pages, and what did you think of them?
10th Apr 2012, 8:30 PM #5
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Well I for one think the comic is lovely. I haven't subscribed yet, but have enjoyed the pages so far.
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10th Apr 2012, 9:27 PM #6
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danielthecreator:your artist needs to learn how to draw hands.

I present exhibit A: let's all take a good look at the hands in this picture ;)
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It is, after all, only fair.
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10th Apr 2012, 9:41 PM #7
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Blaeringr:
danielthecreator:your artist needs to learn how to draw hands.

I present exhibit A: let's all take a good look at the hands in this picture ;)
It is, after all, only fair.


I don't want to start a fight or an argument with him, or be like "You suck, we're better."
10th Apr 2012, 9:47 PM #8
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hands and feet are my biggest weakness, thats why i stopped drawing that strip, to spend atleast 3 months working on my anatomy and life drawing until I can draw like Milo Manara :P That's why I notice it so well now when other people are bad at hands. It is my own biggest weakness.

all those hands though are supposed to be all expressionisticy and distorted for what its worth-but the hands in the first panel are certainly quite off even though i kind of hide it by making them small and with the shading.
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10th Apr 2012, 10:00 PM #9
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I can draw hands far more accurately than that. I like the simplified look though, and say what you will, my proportions are actually drawn quite well, if a bit formless. You're projecting your own insecurities about yourself onto me. You may not like the style, and that's fine. You can keep criticizing it, and that's fine. Rather than argue about those points, my intention is to point out the great irony of your comment. Nothing more.

In any case, I know it's not absolutely perfecting my drawing that's going to keep our subscribers. sawyerLUVSyou has a good story, and she's going to keep people's interest.
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10th Apr 2012, 10:25 PM #10
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danielthecreator:your artist needs to learn how to draw hands.


It´s not the criticism whats pissing off Blaeringr, It´s the aggressive and douchey way you said it, you should think before posting attacks like this considering this is a very strict forum (specially when it comes to personal attacks)

Back to topic I really like this style, the canvas + comic idea gives a nice touch of life to the story, well done
10th Apr 2012, 10:27 PM #11
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hmm, I'd like to know how "you're artist needs to learn how to draw hands" can be interpreted as aggressive. I see it as just straight and to the point. It's hardly a personal attack either. Merely a critique on the work presented, not a personal attack on the artist.

you don't have to get so defensive and attacking over a little comment! If you don't want to improve that's cool! I just make comments like this in hope people will take it in to start working on their technique. Because I notice with myself, when all my friends and people in my uni class just say "Oh wow it's so great, wow I love it" I dont learn anything and I will never get any better or improve. I always think it's better for people to be driven to improve which is why I make these comments.

For example I appreciate your critique on my old work, even though I didnt ask for it, because it confirms exactly what I've been thinking to myself recently about my own work!

Take critiques for what they are, if you dont think they fit just ignore it, no reason to be immature and attack the messenger :) I'm sure the story is quite nice and will have lots of readers :)
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10th Apr 2012, 11:07 PM #12
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danielthecreator:hmm, I'd like to know how "you're artist needs to learn how to draw hands" can be interpreted as aggressive, lawl. I see it as just straight and to the point. It's hardly a personal attack either. Merely a critique on the work presented, not a personal attack on the artist.

lawl you don't have to get so defensive and attacking over a little comment! If you don't want to improve that's cool! I just make comments like this in hope people will take it in to start working on their technique. Because I notice with myself, when all my friends and people in my uni class just say "Oh wow it's so great, wow I love it" I dont learn anything and I will never get any better or improve. I always think it's better for people to be driven to improve which is why I make these comments.

For example I appreciate your critique on my old work, even though I didnt ask for it, because it confirms exactly what I've been thinking to myself recently about my own work!

Take critiques for what they are, if you dont think they fit just ignore it, no reason to be immature and attack the messenger :) I'm sure the story is quite nice and will have lots of readers :)


It's mostly the words used in your critique that made it seem like you were just being an ass. It's hard to tell how people say things online.

We're going to be working on this comic for quite a while, so we'll both improve throughout, on drawing and writing/story-telling.

I want to just stop this here so no one else gets pissed off or offended.
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