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"Mafia VII: Blood Hotel", 23rd May 2011, 3:42 AM #1
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It has been a while since the events at the Overlook hotel took place. Two years in fact. No one still knows exactly what happen there, but I have manage to get a pretty good idea of what may have happen and how it happen. I probably will never understand why it happen, then again I don't think even they knew why it happen. Maybe there is no why. Maybe it just happen. Does the why really matter? It probably did to my partner. He was about to retire, so when he went to the Overlook Hotel to go to a little gun show only for him and 23 others to get snowed in by one of the largest blizzards seen in years he probably asked why. And when the owner of the hotel was found murder and another man discover to be missing he probably asked why. And when all forms of communication were found to be lost he probably asked why.

He would never know why.

Rules
* Every day phase, everyone votes in-thread to kill someone.
* Every night phase, roles perform their actions.
* Each day and night is 24 hours. Each phase ends at eleven CST.Each phase begins at 9 PM central time and ends at 8 PM central time. Even if I do not manage to post by that time, the phase is over.
* You can now lock your votes. You can not change lock votes.
* You can not reveal your role to others through PMing. You can however do so in the thread, unless if you are the lovers.
* To sign up, copy the list and add your name.
* When the game begins, I will PM you with your role.
* If you have suspicions, announce them in thread! Not secretly. (You can however, reveal your suspicions secertly to your partner if you are a lover.)
* The aim of the game (for the villagers) is to kill all the mafia. For the mafia, the aim of the game is to equalise the numbers of villagers and mafia. For the cultist, it is to survive to the end game.
* Once you are dead you can only post three more times.
*No RPing (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE)
*Try to keep discussion on topic
*Do not join the game if you are not going to play or stay active! REPEAT. DO NOT JOIN THE GAME IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO PLAY OR STAY ACTIVE!

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ROLES:
VILLAGE:
Hider - Hides behind someone at each night to protect themselves. If they hide behind the night kill, the mafia, or the cultist, they die.

Doc - Can save someone form a night kill each night. (Not themselves)

Gunsmith - For one and only one night they can choose one person to give a gun to(not them self). That person can use the gun to kill anybody during the day time and only in the day time (To use the gun they PM of course). Once the gun is use the target will be killed in place of the lynchee. There is a fifty percent chance that the gun man will be revealed. After the gunman's target is killed, the day extends for another 24 hours.

Cop - Can investigate someone every night to learn their alignment.

1 pair of lovers, - Each lover has a partner. They know each other and have their own little chat. If one of the lovers die, so does it’s partner. LOVERS CAN NOT OUT THEMSELVES AND PEOPLE CAN NOT CLAIM AS LOVERS.

10X Villagers - Nothing Special

SCUMBAGS:
Janitor- Can hide the role of one mafia night kill.

Seducer/Seducee - Seducer is like the normal mafia, but is paired with a seducee. The seducee believes itself and its partner to be a lover, and they also get their own lover chat. The Seducee wins with the village, but if the lovers die the seducee will learn its true role and its alignment will change to scum. The seducee does not count towards mafia majority and does not vote with the rest of the mafia. Seducer is not allowed to reveal to the Seducee their true roles until after the lovers die. If the seducer ever dies the seducee will die too just like the lovers (And if the seducee dies the seducer dies.)

Turncoat - Receives a townie pm. If investigated by the cop they appear to be mafia. Wins with the mafia. If killed at night by the mafia it will join the mafia and will be able to take part in voting for night kills. They only count towards mafia majority once they are turned.

Mafia - Normal scum

THIRD PARTY:
Cultist - Wins if last one standing. At night it can choose one person. If that person dies during the night they will collect their body. If they collect two dead bodies they become... [??????]

NOTE: I am extremely paranoid that something here will not make sense. If something here does not make sense, please say, "Capps this does not make sense."
23rd May 2011, 3:50 AM #2
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... capps this does not make sense... and the roles are a bit confusing...

this may make it hard to scumhunt D:
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23rd May 2011, 3:51 AM #3
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Which roles are confusing.
23rd May 2011, 3:51 AM #4
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23rd May 2011, 3:54 AM #5
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mostely seducer/seducee and gunsmith, they seem like really unnessesary roles that just overcomplicate things.
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23rd May 2011, 3:56 AM #6
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lawelite:mostely seducer/seducee and gunsmith, they seem like really unnessesary roles that just overcomplicate things.


Seducer/seducee is a foil to the lovers.

Gunsmith grants makes someone a day vig for one day. This is good for the town because it allows them to make two day moves basically, but it can also backfire horribly.

It doesn't make it harder to scumhunt really, it just adds in some extra dynamics. Hell if anything the Gunsmith role will give you even more stuff to scumhunt off of.
23rd May 2011, 3:59 AM #7
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23rd May 2011, 4:04 AM #8
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Mr. Capps:
lawelite:mostely seducer/seducee and gunsmith, they seem like really unnessesary roles that just overcomplicate things.


Seducer/seducee is a foil to the lovers.

Gunsmith grants makes someone a day vig for one day. This is good for the town because it allows them to make two day moves basically, but it can also backfire horribly.

It doesn't make it harder to scumhunt really, it just adds in some extra dynamics. Hell if anything the Gunsmith role will give you even more stuff to scumhunt off of.


alright now if the suducer/seducee is to foil the lovers then why is their function to look like lovers instead of something that actually affects the lovers, i see it like this the real lovers do their love thing while the seducer/seducee do their own thing too except that they are mafia aligned but they dont count toward mafia numbers, if anything they are a nuetral role. and the gunsmith makes a gun, gives it to someone, they shoot someone and the lynchee is spared then they dayphase keeps going to where another lynchee can be determined? or will it be just a day phase of disscussion and no votes will be allowed. cant they lynch commence unless someone decides to stop it and we go for a 2 person lynch in one day?

also the lovers seem like needless roles, why are they there all of the lover roles i mean?
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23rd May 2011, 4:08 AM #9
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Law, if you don't like the roles, don't have them if you host. I think they're interesting.
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23rd May 2011, 4:09 AM #10
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Macey:Law, if you don't like the roles, don't have them if you host. I think they're interesting.


im just trying to understand them so i can get the most that i can out of this game and so that everything is clear.
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23rd May 2011, 4:11 AM #11
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Law the foil works like this:
The lovers will not know if their partner is a seducer.

There. That is how it works.
23rd May 2011, 4:13 AM #12
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Yeah, most of it was trying to understand, but calling the roles "pointless" seems more like disliking them than trying to understand.
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Mr. Capps:Law the foil works like this:
The lovers will not know if their partner is a seducer.

There. That is how it works.


oooooh, i though it worked like real lover with real lover and seducer with seducee, that is a bit better :D, so can the lovers help the town in any way besides being town
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23rd May 2011, 4:17 AM #14
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The real lover is with the real lover.
But there don't know that they are real lovers.

Also yeah, they can scumhunt.
23rd May 2011, 4:25 AM #15
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Mr. Capps:The real lover is with the real lover.
But there don't know that they are real lovers.

Also yeah, they can scumhunt.


alright, so the real lovers are together and a mafia seducer can choose someone to become their seducee

or is it like the mafia seducer is paired with a seducee, the seducee is town and he doesn't know that the suduce is seducing him, he instead thinks that they are the real lovers.

so it works like there are two pairs of lovers, 1 of the pair is genuine while one lover of the other pair is mafia. this will allow for an internal scumhunt between the 4 lovers where a mafia is going to be caught, so the lovers can choose to trust each other or try to pry each other for who amoung them is mafia...

but when the sudecer dies the seducee becomes mafia...

what the...
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23rd May 2011, 4:29 AM #17
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The seducer does not choose who is the seducee.
If the lovers die (not the seducer) the seducee changes alignment.
They have their own separate chats.
23rd May 2011, 4:31 AM #18
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Mr. Capps:The seducer does not choose who is the seducee.
If the lovers die (not the seducer) the seducee changes alignment.
They have their own separate chats.


alright, thats a bit clearer nwow could you tell me if its posible for a 3 kill day phase via lynch, gunsmith kill, second lynch
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23rd May 2011, 4:34 AM #19
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...The gunsmith kill goes in place of the first lynch, therefore the first lynch does not happen.
The day then extends for another full phase.
That lynch actually does count.

This actually makes it possible for a 4 kill day phase, with lovers or seducer/seducee for each targetssss.
23rd May 2011, 4:38 AM #20
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so if we kill the seducer with gunsmith any lynch a lover we can get 3 non mafia kills in one day! thats crap for town D:

and also this game seems like it will be long since everyone will have to talk and vote, what happens if you dont vote on a given day phase though.
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