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Okie dokes... Votes so far (and my vote):

Sleepy - 7 (Macey, Mayor Sleepy, Antihero, Orangelink, Tylinn, xseraphiim)
Gryphon - 1 (Spinnerlink)
Nobody - 2 (Kimmy, Gryphon)

I'm not very good at these tallies, so I think somebody better double check my work, but I'm 85%-90% sure it's correct.

Okay, so, a couple of things. Early on, I had no clue what's going on... Then later:


I believe I said, "I refuse to explain myself." Why refuse? I was trying to analyze, but I felt that (being totally new to this game) I was doing it wrong, and didn't want to expose my (probably) flawed logic to wolves who would probably then do and say things that might manipulate me. My drawing attention to obvious mistakes I made was mostly a misguided, sheepish "Well, crap, that's what I did?"

Now, I've become a "person of interest". That doesn't bode well for me, as they tend to end up dead. What's worse (for me), as that now, regardless of how I act, it can be construed to still look suspicious.
I vote with a bandwagon? Oh, he's making the safe move.
I vote against a bandwagon that turned out to be a wolf? Hmm... Smells suspicious.
I vote against a bandwagon that turned out NOT to be a wolf? He was just trying to look less suspicious.
I don't analyze out loud? Oh, he's either playing random or mysterious.
I analyze out loud? Well, he trying to throw us off his trail.

Now, I'm not throwing a fit, and I' not planning on taking my toys and going home, but I am a little afraid of the future at this point. Small suspicions balloon into big actions very quickly in this game, and I'm afraid I may only have a few days left. I don't think the current bandwagon will break, so I'm probably okay today. I also would imagine that I'll be fairly safe at night, since the wolves aren't likely to kill someone targeted with town suspicion.

With that, I'm out for now... We'll see how it goes from here.

Oh wait, now I understand what happened. The traitor was converted while the merc killed Capps under my reasoning. Sorry, merc. =S

This doesn't change much, all it does is that it makes Nekosuave being a wolf due to being the traitor actually possible.

EDIT: It also makes Sprite slightly less suspect, BTW.

First: Why in the world are we lynching Sleepy?

If it's to figure out if he's the convert, it doesn't really work that way. For one thing, if we lynch a wolf (or the scapegoat) we don't learn their exact role. Plus I'm assuming the conversion works like it did in Mafia IX when the convert definitely knew they were converted, so I'm pretty sure whoever it was would have been notified last night. Now I could see that Sleepy might be the scapegoat, but lynching the scapegoat won't really help us at this point.

Second: Why has the sheriff suddenly stopped jailing people?

Third: Voting Onecanofsprite again, although at this point it's a little too late.

To clarify a point orangelink made:
If the wolves were to convert on night one, the convert would find out at the end of night 3.

I don't like the idea of lynching Sleepy so I vote Sprite too :I

I would honestly think kimmy is more likely a wolf at this point, but sprite works too. I have actual evidence and reasoning to belie that sprite could be a wolf and sleepy probably isn't.

Sprite works just as well as sleepy to lynch and find out Macey's alignment, and as a bonus he has a chance. I'm sortof afraid Macey and Sprite may be lovers, and there's also a remote chance that sprite is the merc, but...

Sprite, can we have any input from you?

@ Lee- Maybe the sheriff has been attempting to jail the people who have been dying at night? Just a thought.

So if the wolves started converting on night two, the convert would be converted at the end of night 4?

..whelp. That just destroyed half of my reason for voting myself.

Still think Macey's the seer, though, and my lynch would prove/disprove that.

Ugh...

EDIT: Why does OCOS hold a clue as to Macey's status as seer? I can't decide whether to vote for him or not.

I could see that happening once, but not twice. Although, I suppose the neighbor could have something to do with it.

I wasn't actually vegging, though. I've been watching everything, I just honestly didn't know who to vote for (as I rarely do early in the game). I didn't want to mis-vote, because that can make you look bad, so I wanted to state my peace and inform the town that I'm not vegging. You're right in one way, it does drag me out to defend myself -- but no matter what I say, you always read my defenses as being a wolf. Perhaps that's just the way I talk, and you should move on to suspecting someone else now?

I also don't just emerge to accuse people. I just wanted to point out a few things that either weren't being said, or things that I felt weren't being said correctly, or what have you.

I'm a little suspicious of Gryphon, especially after the last longish post -- BUT, I know what it feels like to have every move you make come up suspicious somehow. So I'll give it some time on that.

Sleepy, I still don't get your logic, which was sort of my test to see if you were the convert.

If you're the convert, shouldn't you know it by now? Matt said "The wolf pack has gained a new member!" which should mean if that were you, you'd know in the day, right? So A. if you're a wolf, you'd know you're a wolf. Why would you want to help us confirm Macey as a seer then? You'd only vote for yourself to try and seem like a good guy. And if B. You weren't a wolf, you'd know you're NOT a wolf 'cause the convert went through, in which case there would be no point to vote for yourself as your death wouldn't really be helpful at all. So, why vote for to lynch yourself if you were town? It just makes zero sense.

As a side note, I feel pretty certain that Draft must have been the jailer. He was active when the sheriff was jailing. Now he's gone and so is the jailer. If people continue to stay out of jail, I feel like we can at least confirm then that he's town.

I know. I misunderstood the time limit regarding when the conversion happened. I thought it would be at the end of this night.

Until recently, I thought the part about the new wolf was the traitor, who converts to a wolf if the wolves choose to kill him.

That's only half of the argument, though. The other half is that Macey, who I think is the seer, thinks I'm a wolf. Lynching me is therefore a test of whether she's seer. Remember, the scapegoat doesn't know he's a scapegoat, and shows up as wolf if scryed.

Macey is dead-set on OCOS being town; as of such if he is town that leads credence to Macey being seer and if he is wolf means that macey is totally not the seer.



According to MatthewJA, the conversion itself hasn't gone through yet- it's happening this night. As of such, Sleepy could not know if he's the convert or not. What has probably happened is the wolves have attacked the traitor last night and the merc attacked Capps- this would make things actually make sense. Again, the goal of this lynch isn't to catch a wolf, it's to gather information.

Eh?

Okay, what?

I'll just ask this out in the open: MatthewJA, assuming that the wolves started converting someone during the second night, when would their target be converted?

Last night. He specifically announced that the wolves had gained a new member.

Can't tell between the traitor getting targeted and the conversion going through. And which one it is is important, because it brings into question why Capps was killed if the new wolf isn't because of the traitor.

So with night 2, it would be the end of night 4. I'm pretty sure night 4 hasn't happened yet, has it?

seven dead, started on a day phase, so last night was night 4. (Minus one for the conversion)

Day 1, massive tie.
Night 1, Lee mayor
Day 2, Flexiorn lynched
Night 2, Orangelink mayor, conversion started
Day 3, I'm in jail, Loungegecko lynched
Night 3, Orangelink mayor again
Day 4, MasterOfWeirdness shows up wolf
Night 4, conversion finishes, I'm voted mayor
Day 5, general confusion.

I retract my question and change both my votes for nobody. I need to go back and find my new first-day lynch now.

Oh. Well, damnations. Everyrthing I said regarding the merc and Capps and sleepy conversion on the last page and a fourth are wrong.