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22nd Sep 2017, 2:46 PM #1
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kyrtuck:Not quite. It doesn't have to be the main character or coupl that is non-hetero, it can be supporting characters or even background characters (like that one episode of Star Vs The Forces of Evil). So obviously there can be not-hetero in much more than 5% of the films while still being realistic.


Your reasoning would only apply if each and every movie only had one or two characters.


I'll bring up an example from a comic I follow:

OotS started off as a gag-a-day that didn't have so much planning, but swerved into a plot comic around 12 strips in. But the main cast being a fairly stereotypical D&D party was already set. When the story became a serious thing though, the author wanted more quality worldbuilding, and that included a more varied cast. For a big part, it happened in the background, among secondary and extra characters. And, as you can guess, it angered the fans.
This page got the forums to sound like Comic Fury forums for several days. Note that the character's homosexuality is just mentioned to explain how Haley gets a fitting change of clothes in the middle of nowhere, the character doesn't have a romantic subplot, it doesn't take any focus, one can forget about it and not miss out on the story. But it was still too much for the fandom.

Where I'm getting at is... this comic is very tame in how it shows its author's worldview, but it will never be enough, what the "representation drools" crowd wants is complete silence, there is no level of attenuation that'll make them accept to have their habits challenged.
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18th Sep 2017, 6:11 PM #2
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I'm deleting this post because the joke relies a bit too much on body shaming for good taste.

Leaving the "lizard being angry that I tricked her into eating a piece of vegetable instead of fruit" picture though.
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17th Sep 2017, 6:05 PM #3
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Beige sounds good, but if you want colour highlights, you could go with floor tile patterns.

Examples:
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My favourite is the bottom left one, it allows to make the larger tile the softest colour, the smallest tile the brightest, and the rectangle one something that'll tie the two together. There, I imagine the large tile a darker shade of beige than the walls, the small one a burgundy red, and the rectangle one a steely sort of grey.

Aside from that, the plinths, door frames, and fixtures can add colour to the walls without making it oppressing.
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8th Sep 2017, 2:22 PM #4
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I think it's also good to learn to recognise a good critique from a troll (because that happens) or someone who just isn't good at critiquing (that happens too)

Professional critics are able to see the good sides of artwork outside their favourite genres and give a fair review, but it takes discipline and knowledge of those disliked genres' tropes so they can be gauged by the proper standard.
Cracked.com has an article by a film critic and I think point #5 (the first in reading order) is important: a good critic can judge the work after what it was trying to do and not by what they think it should have done.
Personally, I've always avoided critiquing romantic stories because I have trouble "getting" the characters, plus the plots tend to involve a lot of bickering and make for wordy comics. If I wanted to, I'd first have to learn to recognise when a character has been actually well written for the purpose of allowing the reader to imagine themself in their place without their personality getting in the way, even if that just doesn't do it for me. I made fans angry when I didn't realise soon enough that techno-thrillers (which I felt more confident about, being sf-adjacent) are also written to provide readers with a fantasy they can easily slip into, and that flat protagonists serve that purpose.

Another problem I've seen a lot, especially directed at beginning artists, is to overwhelm them by listing way too many flaws to work on at once - and make the list even longer by pointing out several angles on the same mistake - which sounds like either a deliberate attempt to drive beginners out of the art, or a deep misunderstanding of what a critique is supposed to do.
By example, lets say someone draws their comic with care and pencil and jokes that worked very well with their sixth grader friends, scans it, swears at how dirty it looks but cleaning it up with MS Paint doesn't work so they upload the grey mess and hope for the best. They are totally aware this grey mess is ugly and they want to know how it can be fixed, so they ask for comments.
Well I've seen people handling this situation by listing every way each panel is ugly (I mean if a character is drawn with bad proportions, it can be said without listing how every limb and feature isn't where it should be! Don't elaborate a whole paragraph long on something that can be said clearly in 7 words) and the humour sucks, and then give "practice, practice, practice" as only advice, when what they needed to know first was that inking their lineart and figuring out their scanner settings would make it look 500% better, and that they need to advertise it to their own age group for the humour to work. The rest will be important later and can be mentioned, but it's only disheartening to read a whole rant about it. Take the artist's age and experience into account when offering a critique.

And finally, not all critiques need to be public. If you think someone needs to have a serious flaw pointed out but think they'll be self-conscious about it, or it can be interpreted wrong by other readers, PMs are a thing. Some people will be willing to listen to some things, but feel humiliated if the very same things are said in public. Also, Tumblr has become famous for how some critiques have gone viral and ended up seriously harming someone. It's legitimate to say "this joke seems harmless like this but it's actually hinging on an old homophobic stereotype" if it's true, but we know if ten thousand people read it, there'll be a handful who'll understand it as "this author is a homophobe, lets fight them", so it's better to avoid saying it on media where ten thousand people might end up reading it.
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4th Sep 2017, 1:10 PM #5
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The Letter M:Hey. I'd heard that too. That sucks. I understand that if commercial farming stopped overnight we'd have some serious issues to face. I suppose cows would just be companion animals or roam the countryside in vast herds...there'd be so many but they'd be so useles. We've pretty much erradicated the predators though. I don't know where an equilibruim would settle.

I suppose they roam freely in India where nobody eats them and it hasn't become a big problem, except for the occasional cow stopping traffic.


That's something I wouldn't worry about, even if people were to massively give up on meat, it would happen over several years, not all at once. Decreasing demand would make selling meat less lucrative, so fewer cows would be bred in the first place, and hopefully farms would be able to convert to producing whatever item becomes more popular in the Future (crickets?) and not too many would outright close.
Although, given that a lot of feed is spent, and therefore has to be grown, to produce meat, it does mean less demand for food overall, so it is possible it will drive some farmers out of business.
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The way I perceive it, if one kind of "dog" has hands, walks on two legs comfortably, talks wears clothes, while another kind of "dog" has paws, walks on all four, barks and licks your face, they're not the same species, they just share a name.
Well, unless the universe has some alien biology going on where some individuals develop completely differently. I can think of an example in Schlock Mercenary, where the Kreelies are a species whose normal intelligence is that of a rather smart dog, but that develop sapience if they're infected in childhood by a specific parasite that alters their growth. They're a civilised species, but have non sapient kin that can be kept as pets or slain for meat without it being seen as scandalous.
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31st Aug 2017, 1:16 PM #7
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JackFractal:That being said, don't make your whole life a battleground. Make sure you have places to relax and recharge.


That's a good point. While I told you that you should feel free to talk about what's important, how much energy you're going to put into it also matters, this forum is probably not going to be the battleground you can get the most accomplished on, so it's good to avoid getting exhausted and demoralised over it.
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30th Aug 2017, 2:29 PM #8
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Don't apologise. It would be overbearing if you brought it up in unrelated threads, or if it promoted behaviours that ended up harming people outside your discussions, if you gave your threads misleading titles to get people to read when they're not interested, or if you made so many that it'd be hard to look for the rest of the content.

People who aren't interested in your threads can skip them easily and without fear that ignoring them is going to bite them in the ass later. Someone who finds them excessive is just looking for something to be offended about.

There totally are a handful of people who spam everything "social justice" related, making sure the discussion can't move past justifying having the discussion in the first place, but remember that this is deliberate and not triggered by you bringing up the subject. You are not guilty of others' reactionary behaviour.

There are problems with CF. There are topics that have become taboo because bringing them up stirs up so much unwarranted drama that it's poorly seen to kick the hornet nest. I've been told by moderation myself that someone namecalling people in a thread were just "making a strong impression" while me snarking back was uncalled for. This is Comic Fury, moderation appeases the most aggressive members because it's easier to ask others to take it in silence than to discipline them.

You are not the problem.
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29th Aug 2017, 4:26 PM #9
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The irrational amount of offense at Kaepernick's protest is evidence that there's still a long way to go. His protest is literally the least disruptive way he could have gone about it, it doesn't stop business, it doesn't slow traffic, people who don't like it can easily ignore it, and it's not as if the cause wasn't just, but it's still too much for... way too many people.
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27th Aug 2017, 1:52 AM #10
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snuffysam:Regardless, I'd probably recommend having different locations in separate files anyway? I've found that for some areas (specifically forests), the amount of objects/polygons in the file slowed down editing, even when all the objects were hidden.


One silly thing I found out: merging objects will improve that, even if the number of polygons and textures remain the same. So if you're sure you won't need to move, say, those cans on the shelf, join the objects into one and the lag when editing will decrease.

Splitting main areas into different files is still a good idea though. I'm myself modeling backgrounds right now, and there's one file with exterior details, and one for each building's inside. Once the latter are finished, I'll use a render of the interiors as textures to see through the outside scene's windows.
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26th Aug 2017, 8:09 PM #11
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Since you've been doing this for a while, it sounds like it's within your body's capabilities, so you should be able to get used to it.
I had a factory job for years, and it does involve aches in the first few weeks. Part is the muscles you need the most needing to adjust, and part is just learning to do the efforts efficiently.
What I can advise is: respect safety precautions when lifting things, don't be embarrassed to use equipment like a trolley for moderately heavy boxes even if you could physically lift them by hand, it's ok to ask for help, rearrange your work station to be at your ease if you can, and if you end up taping many boxes in a day, figure out motions that'll do it without lifting your elbows higher than your shoulders, repetitive motions in that position multiply the risk of injuries.
Also pay attention to any pain that lasts longer than the usual fatigue aches. Stress injuries can often be prevented by changing your posture or motions, as long as you catch them early, or they can become crippling, if allowed to worsen.
Pretty much anyone in good health can adjust to the efforts required for warehouse work, but that won't work if you get injured, take safety seriously.

I'm throwing a link on ergonomics here: http://www.ccohs.ca/teach_tools/ergonomics/lifting.html
It's literally the first I got from Google, there are many resources of this type online, you can look through them for the specific concerns you run into in your situation.
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26th Aug 2017, 7:37 PM #12
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26th Aug 2017, 2:30 AM #13
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This looks very nice, but unless you have a very old computer, it's not normal for a scene like this to render in 8 hours.
What I can see from the renders alone is that you have many light sources with ray tracing and oversampling. Keep those for the strongest/closest lights or the ones that cast the most noticeable shadows, and let the less obvious ones cast no shadow, or at least no penumbra, it's hardly visible at all when it's far from the camera anyway.

I don't think an excess of light sources and ray tracing alone would build up an 8 hours rendering time, so there must be other things going on, but I can't be affirmative on what to do with them just from watching a render. Care to elaborate on what you did for those scenes?
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I noticed some absurd claims that if only there hadn't been any opposition, the nazis wouldn't have turned violent.

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This is what went
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counter-protest showed up

If a handful of trolls joined in with the nazis without intending to hurt anyone, they've been used and I hope they have the decency of feeling ashamed now, because the core of that group was in it for the violence and anyone standing by their side helped making their crowd too big to dodge for the intended victims.
What should have antifa done? Stood aside and let them pick on civilians who had not come ready to fight, but had to be around on account of living there? I'm not happy that this job is left to a loosely organised collection of militant groups and individuals, with all the discipline problems this implies. It should have been the police's job. But the authorities didn't take action, and there we are.
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19th Aug 2017, 1:42 PM #15
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Familiarity sells. People expect certain things to look a certain way and not fitting that expectation can register as ugly.
It's like if you have to dogsit a pug, it's going to look ugly at first, but after a while you get familiar with what a pug is supposed to look like and it's not ugly anymore.
Where it gets problematic is when people take that initial "this looks wrong" reaction and reinforce it through nitpicking and overthinking, convince themselves that the whole style is objectively bad, rather than merely not what they're used to. Especially if they start vocally hating on it, because then the next visitor may encounter the art only after reading a couple rants on how bad the art is, and we all know how powerful peer pressure is.
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I attempted to just outline in ink and fill in post scanning for a while, but I kept forgetting areas, so instead I got a jumbo marker:

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Those are cheap but they contain A LOT of ink. So much that on the first few uses they tend to splash a bit when you take the cap off. They're built cheap alright. They also bleed a lot, so don't ink close to the lines! But they will fill your space quickly and inexpensively.
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So yesterday morning at work - I wasn't there because I work on evenings - they had to troubleshoot a totally normal situation. "Work" refers to a hospital laboratory there, for reference.

The first patient to get a full cell count test done in the morning happened to have some anomaly and require a blood smear read to investigate it further. Now, this is totally common. If your cell counts are not right we want to look at the cells and see if they're at least normally formed, and people tend to go to hospitals when they're sick (how rude!). A great time saver: we have an automated machine that does the smears and we just have to read them.
Now, that first patient's smear had bizarre, not human looking cells.
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Anyone who watched a contemporary medical drama, crime show or shampoo commercial is probably familiar with the shape of red bloodcells in their little CGI donuts form, but once flattened onto a microscope slide this is how they should look:
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And of course, for reference, here are a couple ways they can look abnormal:
[spoiler]These cells are "empty" because of a condition where one of the genes controlling how much hemoglobin should be made is not working.
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These cells are a mess because the patient has no spleen. The ones with a nucleus are immature cells that should normally spend some time in the spleen to finish their formation, and the tiny dark ones are old cells that should have been destroyed in the spleen. Malformed ones would also be destroyed, but there aren't any on this picture.
Image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/AML-M6%2C_blood_smear.jpg


These cells are physically broken. Most often it's by forcing their way through a clot, and sometimes they get squished by a mechanical heart valve or suffer heat damage from being in nearby capillaries when you get a burn.
Image: http://laboratory-manager.advanceweb.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/09/contentItem-1459221-7512563-t7bflbisfytxr-or-702x336.jpg


That's not the whole range of what can go wrong with a RBC, but it gives an idea of how they behave when messed up.
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So, this patient's blood looked familiar to the older staff: it contained a small quantity of rather bird-like cells:
[spoiler]Bird blood. This one has malaria. Nothing is sacred to malaria. The normal cells are an elongated oval shape with tight, oval nuclei. Only mammalian red blood cells shed their nucleus while maturing.
Image: http://microbiology.usgs.gov/images/Bloodsmear286x400.jpg
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A few years ago, a patient had injected himself with pigeon blood for reasons only he will ever know, so that's what they thought about at first. There were differences with typical bird blood though. The nuclei were round, not oval. So just to be sure they looked up what blood looked like that:
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CROCODILIAN BLOOD!!![/spoiler]

What kind of man has crocodilian blood in his veins?
There's only one explanation: Kyo came to Canada without telling any of us!
Also appeared to have gotten sick at some point.
Get well soon, you sneaky reptile!


For the actual explanation:
[spoiler]Actually, it turned out that the quality control sample we use to make sure the machine is reading correctly contains alligator blood. It's for reticulocyte counts, because human reticulocytes are unstable. Some of the control blood remained in the machine's tubes and ended up on the first patient's slide. The machine is designed not to mix samples but the control has a different viscosity and it's not handling it as well. We updated our procedures to make sure to flush it out in the future.[/spoiler]
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3rd Aug 2017, 4:37 PM #18
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As the story went, the amount of gore I included in Fairy Dust decreased. But I don't consider it self-censorship to realise this adjusted level is closer to the story I want to tell and more adapted to the public I seek.
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heckos:I always thought that was so ridiculous it's almost funny. I had severe asthma as a little kid, to the extent that I had to use a nebulizer and inhalers multiple times a day. Even now, though I don't usually have any issues because of how intensely we cared for it when I was a child, I still carry my rescue inhaler everywhere just in case because it could literally get triggered by surprise any time.


I think one thing that contributes to the misconceptions about asthma is that it varies so widely in intensity. Some people get it so mildly that they themselves think asthma is a thing you can power through. I had such a case as a kid. The doctor gave me Ventolin, but I quit taking it because the symptoms were milder than the god-awful constant itching in the throat you get on Ventolin. I figure it's easy to go from an experience like that to the conclusion that "asthma is no big deal". My own conclusion was that serious asthma had to be real bad for people to put up with a medicine that feels like a constant allergy.
But yeah, I think super mild cases are the ones most people are familiar with, and when someone has severe asthma they think what they saw from the former should work with the latter too.
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xianyu118:
There's pretty much quite a bit of media that deals with a non-dichotomous conflict - you did mention Harry Potter as an example of a two-sided conflict but I'd argue there was, in the fifth book at least, the appearance of a third party which would be the Ministry with its interference.


I'll say that while for the big conflict it was Good guys VS Bad guys, on a smaller scale there were more interactions at play. Harry and Snape were ultimately on the same side, but they were no friends on a personal level.
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