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16th Aug 2018, 1:01 AM #1
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There's an old theory which states that the solution in one story should become the problem in the sequel.

Know what I say to that? Bullshit. It makes for very awkward, mechanical plotting and authors having to jump through hoops to try - and often fail - to make the theory work. It's a problem that plagues even classic stories like the Foundation series. You never really buy that the Foundation considers the Second Foundation an enemy, given that Seldon created them both.

So, just ignore the theory and plot organically.
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15th Aug 2018, 2:04 PM #2
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It seems to me the predator/prey games in Nightshade might be suitable for making into a game (NSFW, of course) but I wouldn't have the faintest idea of how to assign stats and the like.

Whoomera has lots of situations with big hungry critters and invading aliens, which I'm sure somebody could turn into games if they had the knowhow.

If anyone wants to take a gander at the archives and come up with something, we'd be happy to split any royalties.
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14th Aug 2018, 1:04 AM #3
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The only way to meet characters from Nightshade the Merry Widow is to "dreamwalk" to the planet Cyeatea where you're incarnated in a body that looks like your own (only in Ed's and my case they would be a lot younger than our current ages) only naked and better-endowed. The locals would be happy to show us visiting "oomans" around as honoured guests. Somewhere along the line lots of sex would ensue, because they're the randiest little devils in the universe. And all while our own bodies slept back on Earth.

(Edit) Did I kill the thread???
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Result in thread: Weird Things You Collect
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4th Aug 2018, 5:23 PM #4
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JammyTheBirb:So today I was adding to my 'old drinks cans' collection when I realised, "hey, this probably isn't a normal thing to collect."


Oh, I dunno. Basically anything within reason could be collectible. It wouldn't surprise me if there are museums that contain historic examples of food and drink packaging, so hold on to them.
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Result in thread: Change of style over time
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2nd Aug 2018, 1:27 PM #5
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BLACKWORK:So, I'm currently on Issue 5 of my comic Tabula Rosetta, and after nearly a year of working on this series, I'm seeing quite a bit of stylistic change in my work. Here's a photo of a page of original art from Issue 1...[snip]


I really like your ornate style of inking. Not quite sold on the old-school lettering style, though, with every noun and several other words being emphasized seemingly at random......!

As for evolving art styles, this has come up a few times in this forum. My esteemed artist friend Ed Kline uses 3d rendering, and the style as well as the technology have evolved over the years. I prepared a stock image showing how one of the characters developed, cropped to remove nudity.

Image: http://p-synd.com/ketrin/evolution.png
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1st Aug 2018, 8:25 PM #6
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By my calculations this means you'd need ten thousand views to make $7! Hardly a get-rich-quick scheme, and frankly I'd say that for most comics (present company included), reaching even that may be an unattainable pipe dream.
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Result in thread: How does my website look?
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1st Aug 2018, 12:28 AM #7
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Looks OK on my PC. The only thing I'd suggest is to make the navigation bar two rows rather than one. That way it won't look disproportionately wide compared to the other content, and you wouldn't need to shrink the text to make it narrower.

Also, there's a piece of code you can insert into the CF page header so readers can use their left and right arrow keys to navigate. You may notice that some of the comics linked in user's sigs on this thread (including mine, i.e. Ed's) are already using it. I'm sure some kind soul here would be able to remind us how it goes if you're interested.
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Created by Ed Kline, co-writer Lee M
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25th Jul 2018, 1:16 AM #8
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I have a small quibble about the logo, which is that you should bring the L and the T closer so the bottom of the L is the same distance from the T as the A is from the L.
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Storm Over Whoomera (NSFW, nudity) Comic Fury | Tumblr | Renderosity (first page)
Created by Ed Kline, co-writer Lee M
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24th Jul 2018, 2:12 AM #9
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TVTropes rejected my page for Nightshade the Merry Widow on the false grounds that it was porn, so I reposted it at Allthetropes, which isn't as sensitive about sexual content.

I did put up a TVTropes page for Ed's other (now finished) comic The Stormrunners, which they seemed fine with despite it containing NSFW nudity and a bit of war violence.

I've been meaning to compose a page for Storm Over Whoomera (oh, yeah, Ed really seems to like the word Storm in titles). It's on my very extensive To Do list, way down somewnere.
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19th Jul 2018, 6:05 PM #10
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Jessie Blue:The sloped not-seats and lack of horizontal surface is totally deliberate. It is to punish and try to stop homeless people from taking shelter and sleeping in bus shelters. It's the same reason park benches in some cities have individual seat railings installed so no one can lie down. It's also why some buildings have spikes on any horizontal surface, because they hate the homeless.

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I seem to recall that not long ago a store in Britain was forced to remove the spikes it had installed for this purpose because some compassionate person complained about them. Quite right. However annoying you may find them, homeless people are human beings too.
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19th Jul 2018, 1:09 AM #11
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TV companies fucking up classic programmes by reformatting them into widescreen.
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16th Jul 2018, 7:00 PM #12
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Richest? 10-12 years ago, probably. Didn't know I was born.
Poorest? Last month. Slowly recovering, wish me luck...
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5th Jul 2018, 12:37 AM #13
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I'll try out a new story and if the story and art don't grab me within a few pages then I'm usually not motivated to stick with it. The comics I read have a very diverse range of styles, so it's hard for me to define what exactly I'm looking for in a comic. I know it when it's right in front of me, even if I can't define it.
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5th Jul 2018, 12:34 AM #14
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Fluffythespider:...A few months ago, I happened to watch the movie "Life of Pi" and I got really angry at the ending even though I didn't remember having a problem with it before...

To be honest, the only thing that bugged me about the movie was, we never got to hear about the time the older Pi got that chipped tooth fixed.
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1st Jul 2018, 5:47 PM #15
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Sorry to say, I'm getting a little unoptimistic about our chances of continuing the comics in the foreseeable future...

Nevertheless, I continue to post filler art on the Tumblr sites, so here are a couple more examples.
If you happen to like this art, then please consider visiting the Tumblr sites by clicking on the images and giving us Comments [Disqus], Likes and Reblogs. Thank you.

Storm Over Whoomera: Chieftess on Throne

A test piece from 2016 depicting Momma Seagrass in her throne room. Nudity.
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Image: http://78.media.tumblr.com/9bc14e45ae1a5d236f24949ed7ee71f1/tumblr_pb0dz9KJAJ1vb4cz2o1_1280.png
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Nightshade the Merry Widow: Gooseberry.

A portrait from 2013 of the Emerald Outpost’s majordomo, wearing his floral sun hat somewhere in the Amber Realm. He’s only made a couple of cameo appearances in the comic so far. Male nudity.
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1st Jul 2018, 12:19 PM #16
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The worst paranormal advice I can give anyone is to believe in the paranormal. Go ahead, waste your life believing in that stuff. See if I care. (Ooh, just got a nasty twinge there, as if somebody stick a needle into my leg...)
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30th Jun 2018, 6:01 PM #17
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1. Ancient Atlanteans thawed from suspended animation.
2. Africa, just to the left of the bit in the middle.
3. A laser-edged boomerang. (Be careful how you catch it when it returns!)
4. "Exactly how is that going to help?"
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Storm Over Whoomera (NSFW, nudity) Comic Fury | Tumblr | Renderosity (first page)
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Result in thread: What led you to comicfury?
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29th Jun 2018, 1:55 AM #18
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If my fuddled memory serves, Ed Kline was already posting The Boondock Sector and Nightshade the Merry Widow on CF, some years before he invited me to co-write Nightshade. He also tried other sites but ended up ditching all of them, except Renderosity for Storm Over Whoomera.
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25th Jun 2018, 1:27 AM #19
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OK, some very interesting replies there. So here's a follow-up: just how detailed should the transcripts be? Here's one I did as a trial, followed by the associated page. (It's a pity there are no formal scripts I could copy, but there we are.) Would you say it's too detailed/not detailed enough/about right/other?

Some mildly sexual descriptions in this, so spoilered.
[spoiler]THE GAMES WE PLAY

PAGE 1

Panel 1
Big establishing panel. Early morning in the planet Cyeatea's Emerald Realm. The sky is dark blue. In the background an arched, branchlike structure supports a spider web, hundreds of feet across. A (relatively) small round structure, the spider's lair, hangs from the top of the arch.

In the foreground are giant flowers, several feet wide. A more distant flower has a figure with wings and antennae crouching over it. This is Damiana, a female, human-honeybee hybrid (NB Cyeatean hybrids do not have compound eyes or exoskeletons).

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It is early morning down in the flower bed forest. Many of the people are still asleep. Not so the hunters, the hungry ones. The winter chill has not gone completely from the air, raising goose bumps on naked skin, hardening nipples and determination, especially in a certain orb weaver named Amianthium.

Panel 2
Similar POV, moving in a little closer on Damiana and the flower she's on.

Caption
Far below her web, she watches a flower, a flower with a honeybee on it, and the flower is busy working on the honeybee.

Panel 3
Medium close-up on Damiana on the flower. Wings raised, she is sucking on one of the flower's phallic reproductive organs, but two others have inserted themselves into her naked rectum ("honey port") and vagina!

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"Talk about your early riser", the spider thinks to herself. "And she's a fat one too!"

Image: http://lorddarke.thecomicseries.com/images/comics/122/f973b5fe817c23b6f42867df491aad61578887386.jpg
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"Transcripts: useful or necessary?", 24th Jun 2018, 1:41 AM #20
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I've toyed with the idea of adding transcripts to some of Ed's comic pages, but there are close to 1,000 in total so doing them all would be impractical. Would it be worth adding a few anyway?
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Storm Over Whoomera (NSFW, nudity) Comic Fury | Tumblr | Renderosity (first page)
Created by Ed Kline, co-writer Lee M
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