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16th Oct 2017, 12:36 PM #1
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When it lacks the things which would have made we read it.

That may sound pretty obvious, but what I want to say is that there's nothing actually wrong with the comic, there's nothing which actually drives me away. It's more like, this comic is all good and well done and such, but it's just not my thing.
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16th Oct 2017, 12:03 PM #2
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Depends on the genre. My first thoughts when seeing that title was - Humor comic, parody, fun stuff.

I checked the comic profile, it says 'comedy', so I think the title works just fine.
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9th Oct 2017, 5:05 PM #3
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In general I have no preference, what works best depends on the overall style. In your examples I like the dot eyes best, I think they actually look *more* expressive than the orb ones, and fit better to the rest. The orb eyes on the top black and white image have no expression at all, they look blind or dead.
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6th Oct 2017, 5:04 PM #4
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Odo the Cat - Surreal

We just have to love this cute adorable cat lost in space. Now he's drifting around... Will he get help?
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2nd Oct 2017, 6:40 PM #5
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Yay! La Resistance! (there always has to be one..) - Page 52 - 56
..and a Grand Plan! Page 57 - 63
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2nd Oct 2017, 6:27 PM #6
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30th Sep 2017, 11:50 AM #7
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Jean_Q_Citizen:Not sure what happened, but I'm somehow no longer on the reciprocals list. Haven't missed a day yet this month, so I'm not sure what's going on there. Maybe I clicked on something accidentally? Anyway, please fix it, or tell me how to fix it. Thanks!

That's indeed odd o.O
Did you check out the My comic (edit) box? Maybe something is missing there ..?
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30th Sep 2017, 11:38 AM #8
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25th Sep 2017, 5:05 PM #9
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You're welcome.


I checked with TWC on the 'Recently Updated' thing- That feature is still under development, but how it works right now-

Manage Webcomic --> Edit --> Upload a jpg, gif or png with resolution 190x174, and it will show under 'Recently Updated'. All comics where this is done will be shown, and rotated randomly, so if yours doesn't show up right away, it will at some point eventually.

In TWC's own words-
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"We added the Recently Updated section to showcase additional artwork from artists. However, after the creation of this section, it was noticed that there weren't enough participants to showcase enough images. We made the temporary decision to rotate all participants randomly. Therefore, all those who add an image in their profile under Recently Updated comics will join the carousel.

Eventually, we will add a new set of codes that will crawl your comic and see whenever it is updated and showcase only the comics that have been updated that day. The update should not be based on TWC only. But we will provide additional information when we cross that line but for now, it rotates all images randomly."

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21st Sep 2017, 5:15 PM #10
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Yes, user-friendliness is really important, so we forwarded these concerns.
Here, the response from TWC:


"Hi there!

I've taken the liberty to voice your criticism about the challenging user experience that you had to go through on TWC with its proper personnel.

The features you have mentioned are available to everyone as part of the User Profile but I was told that TWC administrators agree with you that the current set up isn't as user friendly as it should be for new members.

They asked me to tell you that they will be working on improving these features to make it clearer which will hopefully be released in the next update.

They did however, ask if you did have additional feedback, they would welcome it with open arms. You can contact TWC from their contact page or email them at support(at)Topwebcomics.com"




fedoramoron:EDIT: with a friend's help, I finally found out that the "character" thing is... used as a captcha? That's never mentioned anywhere that I know of.

Log in, then click 'Manage webcomic' (to the left), and then [Avatars] (to the right).
But yes, it would be a good idea to mention it also on 'the intro guide to TWC' page, or on a FAQ page.


EDIT: finally found the search button (way at the bottom of the page for some reason) and was able to find my comic from there. Still don't know why it wouldn't show up on New to the List unless the list is in, like... a random order.

'New to the List' shows all comics newer than one year, but their ranking is based on votes (just like on the regular list), not on when they were added or when you update the comic here on ComicFury. So your comic shows up on that list right now but "only" on page 2.


If I put in the Facebook URL and Twitter URL, where will those be visible to people?

Where do you intend to put those URLs?
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19th Sep 2017, 6:38 PM #11
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New event!


Tread the roadkill (but very well alive) possum says hello...

Image: http://i.imgur.com/U7NCDeC.png



...and now Tread's World Tour is on,
where you can promote your comic on Twitter, #WAMyStory

Image: http://i.imgur.com/Dvu8qxa.png



Take the existing template of the character, put him on a photo of a place that inspires you, add a few words, tweet the image with the hashtag #WAMyStory, along with a link to your comic.

Details on Webcomic Avenue's facebook page
--> here in this post, with a how-to-do-it tutorial.
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19th Sep 2017, 5:30 PM #12
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Okay, here are some completed comics I really enjoyed reading-
Apothecary supreme
The Art of Monsters
Sandbox Drama

Short stories-
Strange Stories from Beyond
Silver Nights
The Book of Lies

And finally- the shameless plug ;)
The Perfect Pest, by Amalockh1 and me
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8th Sep 2017, 5:10 PM #13
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Example pages-
What a comic hosted somewhere else looks like when read on Webcomic Avenue.

Basically the same as the original pages, but with some Webcomic Avenue stuff on the top. Banners and logos are still under development, so this is not the exact appearance, but it gives you the general idea.

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In the other news I'm leaving on a vacation trip very soon now, back in ten days or so. During that time InfectedBlood will be around to answer questions or post updates.
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8th Sep 2017, 2:04 PM #14
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swamp:3. Don't try and prove them wrong.

But questions should be all right.. Yes, perhaps they do make the reviewer feel uncomfortable, but still-

When you as the creator really cannot follow the reviewer's train of thoughts.. It must be fine to ask. Just be polite and accept that the reviewer may not have the time for this "extra service". It would be really bad when creators hesitate to ask about things they truly wonder about, just out of fear that it might be perceived as an attack, as an attempt to prove the reviewer wrong D:
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8th Sep 2017, 1:58 PM #15
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Jessie Blue:those gummi candies that make your tongue bleed, those are freaking awesome.

Yay I love those.

...just don't put them in your coffee! I tried that once, back then when I still used sugar, but didn't have any, so in an act of desperation, I tossed in one of those instead, because they contain sugar, right? Ugh!

I don't like several bitter things, but chocolate and coffee are idk, the "right" kind of bitter I guess? The spouse likes super dark chocolate, like 90% stuff, I can't really do stronger than 70%. But good chocolate like good coffee, the bitters are kind of part of the taste.

Exactly this :D
It's not simply bitter yay or nay, but about the type of bitter.
I tried 95% chocolate once... D:
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7th Sep 2017, 10:29 PM #16
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Leafa:A lot of supertasters (including me) find coffee very bitter.

I'm very taste sensitive too, some things on that list are just major uugh..

Rutabaga D:
Grapefruit juice DD:
Brassica oleracea cultivars (become very sulfurous, especially if overcooked) DDDDD:
...and Cilantro tastes like soap!

But I love coffee, licorice and olives.. o.O
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7th Sep 2017, 9:18 PM #17
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khkddn:They're okay with mirrors? Seems like they are, and I don't see why they wouldn't, but you never know.

They are fine with mirrors. And you can have your comic (for instance hosted on ComicFury) show up on the Webcomic Avenue site, the page will look the same as here on ComicFury, just with a Webcomic Avenue banner added on the top.

TWC says-
"you can just create an account, add in the URL of your website and Webcomic Avenue will re-direct all traffic back to your site. Webcomic Avenue will continue to monitor your internal likes from its members, bookmark read pages without taking away from your site's traffic."


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also important-

"Webcomics who links their own website will be eligible to gain the 500 free votes at the beginning of the month as well as per the same rules for those using the publishing feature on Webcomic Avenue. All likes and shares will also grand additional points to your Topwebcomics account using this system."

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"TopWebComics and Wecomic Avenue", 7th Sep 2017, 8:30 PM #18
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Hi all,
time for some website advertising-


Many of us already have comics on the TopWebComics list. If you haven't, go for it, it can increase your traffic considerably.

Very soon now TopWebComics will also expand to an active comic community, Webcomic Avenue. Which means, when we join, even more traffic for our comics :D

Image: http://i.imgur.com/o5FN8ht.png


Webcomic Avenue isn't up yet, but you can check it out on
TopWebComics' facebook site .


The Community

On Webcomic Avenue we'll meet other comic creators and further increase our comics' visibility. To quote TopWebComics:

"Promoting a webcomic is serious business and very hard to do. No matter how much effort you put into it, it never seems to be enough.

Topwebcomics has always provided a means for Webcomic Fans to offer promotional support even when they are unable to offer financial aid to their favorite creators. Every vote matters for spreading the visibility of a webcomic. Each vote can help send thousands of new fans to hard working and deserving artists.

Needless to say, we want to keep that same philosophy into Webcomic Avenue.

With that being said, Webcomic Avenue will be a stand alone site but it will be partnered with Topwebcomics. The partnership will be set to help webcomics get discovered and to allow Fans an opportunity to help spread the word of their favorite webcomics even more so than before!"



Goodies - Bonus votes on TopWebComics

As active members on Webcomic Avenue we'll get rewarded with extra votes on the TopWebComic list. And we'll get further votes for liking, sharing and subscribing to other comics.

"any Webcomics who are members of Topwebcomics and also publishes on Webcomic Avenue will start each month with 500 free votes on Topwebcomics providing that they updated their Webcomic Avenue account at least once the month before. This will separate the active users with the non-active users.

This option will allow Artists who are consistent with their updates to gain the additional visibility that they deserve. One might argue the fairness of these free votes but the way we see it, it is fair game as this option is available to everyone!"


Whole post here -->
Webcomic Avenue presentation post


..and more goodies

- Creators can set up their own forum for their comics, for more interaction with fans.

- ..and make a dedicated section for their comic characters.

- Mascot! a roadkill possum.....



Feedback, questions

How does this sound? What do you think? Anything you'd like to discuss?
TopWebComics would love to hear our opinions.

And sure, feel free to ask about anything you're wondering about.
Should I not be able to answer myself, I can forward the questions to TopWebComics.



Image: http://i.imgur.com/ml7iG39.png


Most relevant links
TopWebComics on facebook
About Webcomic Avenue


[PS: I've already informed Kyo about this thread and gotten his permission. Better safe than sorry ;) ]
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5th Sep 2017, 10:23 PM #19
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Once I've figured out the layout, I need 1-2 hours to draw the page. ...and then at least five hours to clean it up digitally. I need to rethink my drawing methods D:
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5th Sep 2017, 10:12 PM #20
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argylefox:Where I stopped reading:
Page 29.

Why I stopped reading:
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure, but I'll try to do my best.

Confusion, which reached its critical mass at page 29..? ;)


Thanks for the critique, this was indeed interesting-
The overall issue seems to be- things I as the author considered as obvious may still not be that obvious for the reader.. Things may not be shown or explained thoroughly or clearly enough? Sometimes I can see why, but other times I'm rather confused...


So here are my thoughts, and some questions.
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Prologue:

Yes, that's right, pages 1-12 is a prologue, which happened roughly one generation before the main story, and which defines the overall premise. I agree, having it clearly presented as a prologue could indeed be helpful for preventing wrong expectations and confusion.


Main characters, major characters:

Yes, the main character (Alph) shows up on page 13, which is pretty late. I was indeed worried about that, that the reader might feel disoriented, not knowing who or what to connect to. One *major* character, Reed, is introduced already on page 1, but yes, he's not the main character. And what may further worsen this is that Alph isn't shown on the title page either.....

This is why I added page 0 (which wasn't there originally), to show Alph already at a very early point. But seems it's still not good enough (?)

So this is another thing I need to figure out. Maybe it's enough to name the prologue as such, to signal that "this is not the main story ..and not about the main character ...yet". And perhaps add an overall cover page for the entire series, with Alph on it, before the #1 title page.



Real goals:

Yes, the main plot and overall goal is dealing with the threat introduced in the prologue (the disaster in the old timeline and what to do so that it doesn't happen again) - I'm not sure why this is not obvious, but yes, I can see how the "everyone seeming to brush it off"-thing you mentioned can turn it into a seemingly less important thing.

However, the reason why everyone "seem to brush it off" is simply that they don't know about the threat. This is mentioned in the prologue (page 12, "the public should not hear about this"), but maybe that wasn't done clearly enough? Or believable enough? "The public not knowing" is further addressed on pages 38-40, and this is also where the main character learns about it, which changes his life entirely. But yeah, that's pretty late in the comic, and in your case too late... ;)

So I guess I need to show this "public not knowing" aspect in a better way, already in the prologue.


Character behavior:

The "Big C" character's "casual" way has its reasons (which will be revealed at some point), I didn't consider that any issue because everyone else were not reacting casually. Or, that was the idea. Perhaps I should show that more explicitly, have the characters look even more nervous or upright scared, maybe even freaking out..? And I agree, it's not shown very well (or at all o.O) why they let this guy leave again. In general, if people's behavior come off as strange, unintentionally, that is something I do need to fix, so I'll carefully look through those pages and figure out what will be best to do.


Alph:

I'm surprised Alph came off as shallow. So now I'm wondering - What should I have done in order to make him more interesting? What's missing?

Giving him depth by infodumping a lot about his personality right away cannot be the solution. So I decided to go by 'show not tell', characterize him through how he behaves, how he reacts to things, beginning with everyday life obstacles, and then have more and more of him revealed as the story proceeds. But how I did this appears to be not good enough? What else of him should I have shown already at this early point?


New scene with "nothing to link it to the first or second scenes":

I guess this is page 28? The connection to previous scenes is there - Alph's father (who's already introduced in the first scene, and mentioned in the second scene) and the politics (which is related to the threat). So I'm confused, I'm not able to tell why it feels disconnected, or what I should do to make the connection more clear than already ..?


Art:

Ouch, looks like I fell victim to the "sidewards-mouth"-syndrome and cartoony-eyes xD Thanks for pointing that one out, I was already aware of it, somewhat (in general my drawings are sort of stylized), but didn't consider it as any big deal, maybe because we don't see what we've already gotten used to. Like the "tumblr-nose" :P But anyways, looks like I have to pay more attention to real life drawing.
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So in summary-

Thanks again, this was useful to understand where readers may disconnect from the plot, and I can see how the story could benefit from a fix or two here and there :D

When it comes to the parts where I can't follow your reasoning ("Alph" and "New scene with.."), should you have the time, feel free to fill me in :)
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