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22nd Jun 2017, 5:22 AM #1
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Sounds like fun. I volunteer Wyrecats for this. No flags on mine, will draw for any flags.
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20th Jun 2017, 11:55 PM #2
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PC/Console/Handheld: Metal Gear Solid V, Metal Gear Solid 4, Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker. See a trend?
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18th Jun 2017, 11:48 PM #3
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Steven-Vincent:No, they're not. Implicitly any quality judgement is subjective and therefore saying 'this is terrible' and 'I think this is terrible in my own opinion' are synonymous by definition, and one just uses more words than the other.

I still think Morrison could be improved by having a chimp write instead of him but yes that is my opinion.


If all opinions are equal, even in art, then there's no point in any form of education, critique, or schooling, and there's no point in talking about it. If there are some kind of standards for craft in comics storytelling that've been defined by decades and decades of practice and discourse, then opinions have different weights, especially those that can't be backed up beyond "I personally don't like it".

Certainly not every Morrison work will be his best work, and he does have a fairly hit-or-miss record based on both the quantity of his output and the outlandishness of his style, but the importance of his hits cannot be overstated. A lot of what we know about what can be done with comics and superhero writing has been proven by Morrison, as he's done landmark works like Animal Man, The Invisibles, Doom Patrol, The Filth, We3, All-Star Superman, Seaguy, and Arkham Asylum. Even his long runs on various flagship superhero books like JLA, X-Men, and Batman have epic stories that have radically transformed the respective characters across multiple mediums. His contributions to the world of comics shouldn't be dismissed by saying that a chimp could write better, at least not without a lot of argument and evidence to back it up.

Steven-Vincent:Complications and kudzu plots are not remotely the same thing.


They are when the complication is done to make a larger thematic point-- Morrison comics are always about something, instead of just twisting the plot around for its own sake.

Merged Doublepost:

Taz Hassiotis:hey, guys!

im curently working on a superhero comic named: TURTLEBOY.

and im actually trying to make a awsome story that is lightharted, hero is fighting the bad guys, is more optimistic and helpfull to anyone!

but since im still not sure what will hapen in upcoming seaquels (i have only ideas who will apear and some spin-offs from the series focusing on other characters, but its just ideas so far)

and here is my main question:
WHAT DO YOU EXCEPT FROM SUPERHERO COMICS!
or better
WHat do you miss or is missing in the recent superhero comics ?
and
What annoys you in curent superheros in overall media (comics, movies, cartoons and etc.) ?

this will be rreally helpfull and could help me what i could do better in my upcoming project :)

ill be happy for any replys or awnsers, and it will make the progress of my project lil bit easier.

have a good day
TAZ


And I realize that I kind of derailed the thread with my Morrison obsession and my compulsion to defend his good name, so I'll apologize and answer these questions--

1.) Depends on the comic, but I have a very liberal definition of what constitutes a superhero-- basically, a fancy look and/or name, an ability that couldn't quite manifest in reality, and a sense of purpose driven towards righting wrongs in the world.

2.) I could go on all day about this, but when current superhero comics are defined by characters owned by corporations with decades upon decades of history but no real ability to age or change, there's no point.

3.) The lack of lasting consequences to what heroes do, especially if they do things that are flagrantly destructive or amoral. Recent Marvel movies like Age of Ultron and Civil War basically show that all these guys are self-centered assholes who cause more threats to the public than prevent.
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18th Jun 2017, 9:42 PM #4
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In which case, if it's a matter of taste, it's not of the quality of "a chimpanzee writing stories with children's blocks and crayons". "I don't like this" and "this is terrible" are two completely different things.

Also, there are plenty of people (myself included) who do like complicated stories.
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18th Jun 2017, 8:22 PM #5
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Steven-Vincent:And I'd submit that if you were to go and actually read Marvel and DC as they are being written right now, it won't be hard at all for the OP to do it better than they are. A chimpanzee writing stories with children's blocks and crayons could do better than what people like Johns, Morrison, and Bendis are putting out these days.


Based on what criteria? (Especially regarding Grant Morrison)
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18th Jun 2017, 6:07 AM #6
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Everyone came through! Just saying it makes me smile.
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15th Jun 2017, 4:55 AM #7
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Gave female Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates purple hair and named her "K.A.", does that count?
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14th Jun 2017, 6:07 AM #8
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kyrtuck:You know, I think you're quite right.


Classic plays, modern comics, film and TV, they almost all have rich or well off people go through tragedy and drama. Almost never destitute people. Maybe a part of it is because poor people don't buy things as much as the well off, so its a question of being relatable to audiences.


I've thought that over myself before.


Noticed how a lot of hero films and shows try to pay lip service to the rich people being arrogant and selfish until they go through tragedy, but they come out the end with the opportunity to be the hero. Iron Man comes to mind as a character given a second chance he really didn't deserve.
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13th Jun 2017, 3:50 AM #9
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What is this "Unwind"? Is it like playing a game where you aren't trying for any achievements?
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11th Jun 2017, 3:17 AM #10
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Beautiful comics. Especially good use of color and character designs. I'm definitely gonna binge on this.

Meanwhile, Wyrecats completes its first year!
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11th Jun 2017, 1:47 AM #11
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9th Jun 2017, 3:15 AM #12
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Worth noting that tragedies in the Ancient Greek or Shakespearean modes deliberately invoke catharsis by offering opportunities for new beginnings-- if not for the characters who die, then for those left behind. Othello has Iago imprisoned and presumably killed for his crimes, Hamlet has the titular character take his evil uncle with him to the grave, Richard the Third and Macbeth fail in their evil schemes, and Romeo and Juliet ends with the teens' families reaching a peace after the double suicide. There's crisis, but also an opportunity for growth and meaning.
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8th Jun 2017, 1:17 AM #13
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Any of the Wyrecats, presumably in their unarmored past looks, are okay, though only K.A. and Mela (teenaged or adult) would qualify. Thank you.
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4th Jun 2017, 6:28 AM #14
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Perhaps we need to make a clear distinction between threats and criticism. The former is inexcusable and illegal. The latter isn't, even if you don't agree with it.
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4th Jun 2017, 3:35 AM #15
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The comic may be called Nothing Special, but it's definitely got interesting ideas and aesthetics. Be confident.

And in this week's Wyrecats, some pixel icons..
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4th Jun 2017, 2:07 AM #16
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Tibbittz:It absolutely is though. The SJWs wielding their internet torches are trying to bully creators into rewriting and recasting and recreating stories into whatever image the SJWs deem the most progressive this week. Just because this isn't the creators vs. the government doesn't mean that free speech is not very much at stake.


Free speech only means that the government doesn't have the right to suppress speech. It doesn't mean that people can't dislike things, or even that publishers can't ditch creators whose work they feel isn't popular. The right to say whatever you want is paired alongside the right for others to complain about you when you say whatever you want. Otherwise you're suppressing peoples' rights to opinions about your work. So no, this is not a legal issue.


Tibbittz:"Pernicious"? Oi.... please tell me you're not an Anita Sarkeesian pledger.

My stories are built the way they are built. Someone can come along and say "Hey! Why isn't Erica Puerto Rican? Why isn't Jack transgender? WHY ARE KEEPING THE WHOLE WORLD DOWN, CHANGE IT ALL NOW OR WE'LL RIDICULE AND DOX YOU!!!!!" And if someone does, I'll reiterate my opinion of "bite me hard" from my earlier post, because INTEGRITY, dammit. Why can't keeping a character white be an example of genuine integrity?

(And this is coming from someone who'd like to see Doctor Who regenerate into a female for a season or 5, and whose own SwordCat Princess will feature a black Beowulf.)


And please tell me you don't think that it's more important to hate on Anita Sarkeesian and what she says than hate on the people sending her constant death threats because they don't like what she says about games.

Tibbittz: The problem with SJWs trying to force everyone to make every story a Diversity Day PSA is that diversity is not integral to every story. Diversity as a thematic pillar is very relevant to Star Trek. I adore Star Trek (I watched a Next Generation episode earlier today, in fact), and Roddenberry's counterculture push for diversity and mutual respect among all peoples is brilliant and commendable and is a wonderful, amazing thing.

...but I would argue that that same push for diversity just does not fit comfortably into every story. Creators are not obligated to save the world and right the wrongs of history with every story. It's beyond unfair to expect this public service from every creator of every story.


Not every story, but if you can, why wouldn't you?
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3rd Jun 2017, 11:05 PM #18
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Can you define your terms? Specifically, which writers are "the worst writers they could find"? And why is there "no depth or grasp of reality"?
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3rd Jun 2017, 10:35 PM #19
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"Diversity as a form of performative guilt doesn’t work. Let’s scrap the word diversity entirely and replace it with authenticity and realism. This is not a new world. This is *the world.*"


Above quote from G. Willow Wilson, creator of the Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel.

The idea that creators should be allowed to tell their own stories goes without saying, though nobody is stopping anybody from doing whatever webcomic they want in their spare time and putting it here. This isn't an issue of free speech.

The larger issue seems to be that a lot of creators from hobbyists to professionals can only really imagine white leads in white settings (with anyone else being auxillary and/or stereotypical), and rather than trying to expand their viewpoints and draw from sources outside their own experience to increase the depth and meaning of their stories, get defensive and double down on their "integrity" to stick to white people-- as if stubbornness and insularity are things to be proud of. This is even more pernicious in fantasy backgrounds, not less so, since the person imagining the world CAN set all the rules for what the humans in the world look like, and choose to just go for universally light-skinned Europeans.

My own comics may seem like "SJW quotaing", since the Wyrecats are all different races under their suits (though all kids from America) and all fit somewhere on the autism spectrum (my own identity), but I'm more than happy to listen to any critiques about how I represent that, even if I can't ultimately please everyone.

To close, a quote from author Junot Diaz;

“Motherfuckers will read a book that’s one third Elvish, but put two sentences in Spanish and they [white people] think we’re taking over.”
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Don't kink-shame the cat
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