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14th Apr 2018, 7:50 PM #1
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I am honestly scared of most of these gators now. Gators and spiders, two of the scariest animals.
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12th Apr 2018, 7:10 AM #2
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The one thing I might change is the parts where it says Bink! Bink!

It doesn't look integrated enough with the panel in my opinion. Maybe if there were speech bubbles around them it would look better. Not necessarily a normal speech bubble like a human would have. The bubble could be rectangular, and/or glowy and/or transparent. Hard to say exactly how it should look, but it's something to maybe play around with and see what you can do. Right now I just feel like it's not quite at the same level of professionalism as the rest of the comic, it has sort of an internet meme look to me.

Another thing, this is really hard to explain since I don't know what I'm talking about, but there's something I don't like about the colors. I guess I would say they're not sharp enough, if that makes any sense at all. Like there are too many subtle variations in the color within one object. I think I'd prefer a style with more areas of solid color. There's something cleaner and easier to read about that style. I think the lines could be thinner and straighter also. This is all just personal taste, other people might have no idea what I'm taking about, or might understand, but disagree. The only thing I really feel strongly about is the Bink text.


Obviously really excellent art, overall.
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30th Mar 2018, 4:05 AM #3
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I still like mine, please don't change it
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28th Mar 2018, 8:18 PM #4
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Not necessary, I do all my own hating. When you're serious about comics you've got to learn to do pretty much everything yourself, including art, writing, html, advertising, and finding a million reasons why your comic is terrible and should never have existed.
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27th Mar 2018, 9:41 PM #5
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I'm gonna assume this is the reason why all my posts haven't gotten 4000 likes lately.
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26th Mar 2018, 11:12 PM #6
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I started posting my comic sooner than I originally wanted to because I started to see some similar comics coming out and I didn't want people to think I ripped them off. They turned out to not actually be that similar though. Even if a similar premise or style has been done before, every story will be unique in how it's told.
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26th Mar 2018, 3:56 AM #7
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Am I under arrest if I don't turn it off? I'm pretty sure there's no law against it so if they bothered me too much I'd just get a lawyer.
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24th Mar 2018, 4:26 AM #8
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I don't think my characters would be ideal candidates for pixelization, but this thread looks cool though. That orange cat thing is really nice, I'm looking forward to seeing these!
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20th Mar 2018, 10:39 PM #9
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Wow, years... How did you find me when I wasn't on CF?


I've talked to you on reddit before, my username is slightly different here though. Fun fact: I'm pretty sure you've also talked to Bobblit on reddit, there's some shared users between this forum and /r/comic_crits, but Sovember is the only one I've seen who actually uses the same username.
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19th Mar 2018, 9:19 PM #10
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Sure, no problem. I have some:

cover - http://icegifts.webcomic.ws/comics/first/
page 103 - http://icegifts.webcomic.ws/comics/103/
page 156 - http://icegifts.webcomic.ws/comics/156
page 354 (non yet on CF) http://mildegard.ru/Gifts_of_wandering_ice/English/page354_eng.html

all have links to their bw versions


The ones with color look pretty cool. I'm not sure if it would be quite worth such a big slowdown of the update pace, but it looks better in my opinion and would make it more fun to read. I've actually been meaning to read this for years, since before you came to CF, but black and white comics just don't usually hold my interest as easily so I never made it through the whole archive. I still intend to finish reading it someday, but it would just be really nice with color.

I can only speak for myself though. A lot of people here like black and white, and it's not as if black and white comics never get popular. It still looks good how it is now, it just holds my interest less and it's a bit harder to tell what's going on.
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18th Mar 2018, 7:34 PM #11
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I do definitely prefer color, but I'm not absolutely opposed to reading black and white if the comic is good enough and if it's clear what's going on.

It would be interesting to see how your pages would look colored, if you have any like that to post, cause I can't know for sure if it would be worth it or not if I couldn't see a page to compare. It's possible that it would be a lot better, but I certainly don't think your comic is unreadable in its current state so it's probably not necessary to change.
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13th Mar 2018, 7:35 PM #12
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10th Mar 2018, 6:43 PM #13
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Ok here we go:


[spoiler]My greatest weakness is that I'm a perfectionist, and also a team player, with 6 years of experience in the field. I am a self motivated fast learner who is very excited to work here. My other greatest weakness is that I have forgotten what this thread is about.[/spoiler]
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9th Mar 2018, 5:56 PM #14
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Oh, also I remember hearing someone talk about how shitty the description was (which it WAS, btw) so I figured I'd write up a new one. What do you think of this?

"Earth is so small in the greater scope of things; All of creation has fallen under the shadow of the United Galactic Sovereign Republic. A star-crossed rebellion has gathered 5 young adults from every corner of the globe. Our last hope, on a world bent towards its own decimation."



Better, but there are still a couple issues.

-It is a little bit cliche, but that's sometimes hard to avoid in a short description and not necessarily a bad thing, since it makes it clear what type of reader it's aimed at.

-I'm less likely to read a comic with the phrase "young adult" in it since YA isn't my favorite genre. Of course it all comes back to who you're aiming at. If you're going for a YA audience, then maybe that's a good keyword to include. (I guess it just sort of irks me that there's apparently a need to even specify that the characters are adults of any sort, when in any genre besides children's books, it's more or less assumed that the main characters are adults. So it sounds somewhat immature and niche to me, separate from most of what I'd consider normal literature or "real" literature.) Perhaps I'm outside of your target audience or overly biased against YA. But I'm only 22 and I feel too old for this comic, so I wonder if maybe you're limiting your audience more than necessary? I dunno, I feel like you could call them "young revolutionaries" or "young insurgents" or something. It's not them being young that's the problem, it's just that calling them adults paradoxically makes it sound kinda childish to me. It's like if someone feels the need to specify that they're human.

-In the words of Will Bailey, globes don't have corners. Maybe try "every corner of the map" or "all across the globe" or something.

-I don't love the word decimation, cause the way it's often used today is very different from the original Latin meaning, which is very clear to people familiar with the etymology. It originally meant to destroy 10% of something, it shares a root with decimal and probably decade. So I don't know whether you mean 10% of the planet will be destroyed or if all of it will destroyed, and I'd prefer clearer language.

-Besides maybe changing the word decimation, the last sentence is very good in my opinion. It's interesting and kinda unexpected, and it explains why the title is Worldbent.



Anyway, you don't have to take all of my suggestions, it's your comic, not mine, and it doesn't have to cater to me if I'm not your target audience. I think it's a good sign that you guys at least seriously consider feedback from me and others though, it means you have the potential to really improve over time. Something I've noticed over the years is that when a comic is really really struggling, those are often the authors most resistant to crits, they'll just come up with excuses whenever someone gives them feedback, and the result is that they continue struggling.
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8th Mar 2018, 8:38 PM #15
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not bad but I've been here for like 2.5 years and i know some more advanced techniques.

10) go to various computers at public libraries and friend's houses around the world and use them to make fake comic fury accounts to subscribe to your comic and rate it 5/5 after everyone on cf sees all your subscriptions they'll know it's good and subscribe also. then subscribe all your accounts to more popular comics, then unsubscribe en masse to destroy your rivals' self confidence

11) shit talk your own comic on anon, the controversy will generate clicks

12) actually make a good comic too hard, nevermind

13) go to a larger comic host and rapidly get way more subs than here with less effort
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7th Mar 2018, 9:02 PM #16
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The #1 reason I haven't read it is that you don't have a banner and you don't post here a lot, so I didn't have any way of knowing if I'd like the comic or not. I honestly wasn't even sure you had a comic before today.

I took a look earlier, the main thing that throws me off so far is how there aren't speech bubbles, there are just those really basic looking white rectangles at the bottom. I actually use similar speech rectangles in my comic because I don't like to cover up the art, but it throws some readers off. What helped me was to make the rectangles look more visually complex and integrate them with the panels more (adding borders and shading, coloring them in, making a unique font, stuff like that). I don't have that many more subs than you so it's not like imitating my comic is the key to popularity or anything, but just an idea. You could also just go with speech bubbles, since that's unfortunately what most readers prefer.

The third reason is, there isn't too much of a hook to get me interested. The main character seems to be in a tough spot so I feel some sympathy for him, but I feel like I need something more to get me interested in what's going on. I wanna know what type of reader this comic is aimed at and if I'm that type or not. Is it gonna have a lot of action? Or is it more about interpersonal relationships? Will there be scifi aspects, fantasy aspects? What is the comic even about? Right now I kinda have no idea, so I have nothing to look forward to. The description doesn't really help honestly.

Worldbent is A WIP webcomic created by Garrett "The Dunkateer" Bogle. Join us as we go on an epic journey to find out the answers to life's mysterious questions. Questions like: What is the meaning of life on Earth? Why is the vegetable swearing so much? What exactly is the backstory of that random cat? These are questions that need answering, and Worldbent will indeed answer them, eventually, maybe.


Those, uh, mostly aren't interesting questions. I mean, it's meant to be funny, so it tells me there will be some humor in the comic, which helps a little bit. But it doesn't actually make me understand or feel interested in the premise, and to be totally honest, it's not really even my type of humor. It's sort of random and funny-ish but it doesn't actually make me laugh the way a lot of pure humor gag-a-day comics do like SMBC, XKCD, Deathbulge, Perry Bible Fellowship, etc. If I'm gonna go through the effort to get invested in a story comic, it needs to promise more than to just be sorta funny.


Now, keep in mind, I didn't actually read the vast majority of your pages. So it's probably much better and much more interesting than this. It's just that it really helps if you get readers interested fast. If we're only interested after we read, then we'll never start reading.

I think the key here is to advertise better. Show off the art more (it's pretty good) and make the premise clearer. It's not even that I dislike this comic, it's just that I'm not sure what I'm getting into.
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5th Mar 2018, 5:09 AM #17
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Nonsense. You think they'd let him wear that hat if he wasn't trustworthy?
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5th Mar 2018, 5:08 AM #18
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I removed some more stars, especially around the bottom, and broke up some of the nebulas into smaller pieces.

Image: http://i.imgur.com/8gfrXZL.png


I think it's looking better, probably not complete, but headed in the right direction at least. At least the top and the bottom don't look so different anymore.


around the bottom of the second "square" (of equal width to that of the image) up (i'll mark it if it's unclear where) you also have this random black cloud over the others. it looks like a paint bucket mishap?


I think I know which area you mean. The idea there is that the black is behind the clouds, it's just supposed to be cloudless background space. I did it kind of sloppily though. I cleaned it up a bit in the new version, does that look any better to you (assuming that's the area you meant)?
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4th Mar 2018, 8:55 PM #19
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I've been working on a more realistic/organic version. How does this look to you all? I've been trying to make the big S shape near the bottom less noticeable.

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2nd Mar 2018, 6:40 PM #20
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Yeah my pixel sizes are definitely not consistent, so it's not really historically authentic pixel art if that's the type of thing you're looking for. I don't personally see what the big deal is with mixed pixel sizes, but a lot of people dislike it and that's fine, not everyone has the same tastes.

Some other comics you might wanna check out:

A Modest Destiny

Kid Radd

Adventure Inn

Isotown

A Letter For Eko

Hero Oh Hero
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