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17th Apr 2017, 1:18 PM #1
Saeriellyn

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Hm...so what happens if nothing happens?

Do we get to start just posting them in here? *shifty eyes*

I'm so impatient. lol
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24th Mar 2017, 9:56 PM #2
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Oh man Joey that's fantastic! I can't believe you did a whole group shot! Love seeing them in your style...especially Gurgi, and Eilonwy's hand holding the bauble.
Dang those fluid lines of yours are just gorgeous. You draw like an animator...beautiful! Can I share this on my social media?
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14th Mar 2017, 11:08 AM #3
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D'awwww! It's "cool" Cato! <3 <3

And....actually, no, I procrastinated everything until the last minute! But that was for stuff I really didn't want to do.
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13th Mar 2017, 9:31 PM #4
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I know I'm being a goody-two-shoes overachiever for posting this already, but I had free time today and if I didn't go ahead and do it I'd forget about it.

I have a soft spot for Tanner. He reminds me of those stoner guys in high school who spent all lunch hour playing hacky sack in the parking lot. It looked pretty much like the most physical exertion they would ever willingly undertake.


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13th Mar 2017, 2:01 PM #5
Saeriellyn

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I'm up for it! Pick whoever you want from mine, you know 'em all.

I've already done Cato and Kyler seems too obvious so I will go browse...

ETA: Just realized I'm the fifth responder and you only put spaces for four. But I'll do one anyway whether you want to trade or not. :)
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24th Feb 2017, 6:24 PM #6
Saeriellyn

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I'll bite. Never done any exchanges before and I need a creative stretch.

Submitting The Book of Three. It has a V flag but you'd have to be super squeamish. I use it only b/c it's an adaptation of a children's book so I don't want any mad parents on my case.

I'm okay with with all flags except S! But family-friendly would be my preference.
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9th Dec 2016, 1:31 PM #7
Saeriellyn

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You've already got quite a few here, and I dislike adding my name to the pot on these kinds of things because I don't like begging for feedback, but if you are inclined, I'd love some advice on The Book of Three.

Story isn't mine as I'm adapting a book, so no need to analyze it as nothing is going to change. My art style has evolved quite a bit and I'd love to hear how I can push it further. And I am specifically looking for opinions on whether to stick with the page format I was using for the first 100 pages or so (traditional "print" layout), or stay with the vertical format I have switched to in my most recent pages.

Thanks so much - and if you're totally burned out and DONE by the time you get this far, I'd understand. It's a huge commitment doing threads of this type.
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31st Oct 2016, 3:34 PM #8
Saeriellyn

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I sure as hell am. Spoiled, that is.

Part of the issue is that I have small children and no spare time to nitpick around with traditional methods. If I want to keep my comic output high I HAVE to use digital tools. My drawing skill is fine either way, (though after working on a screen so long I find the "tooth" of paper sort of a sensory annoyance) but I have zero patience for not being able to resize and rearrange page elements with a few button clicks. And for coloring - sheez. I wouldn't even know how to START anymore without multiple layering, the ease of quick-fill, and slider adjustments for contrast, etc.

I have a cynical inner voice that says my attention span has been so fried by the digital age that I couldn't go back to traditional media even if I wanted to and had the time. That's probably not true, but I'd be hampered by a lack of passion. To some extent, doing a comic has made me more focused on the end result rather than the process - ironic, since that tendency is something I used to get frustrated with my art students over.
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20th Oct 2016, 2:45 PM #9
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This thread appears to explain why I'm suddenly getting a few comments from readers I've never heard from before. lol

I think the general consensus is that most of us make an effort to reply to comments left on our work, because it is good to acknowledge that somebody took the time to say something. As someone in my 30s, an old fogey by this site's standards, I remember when commenting was far more common than it is now. Ten years ago people were browsing sites like this on actual computers with keyboards. Now that mobile devices have become the norm, commenting has become far, far less frequent, because nobody enjoys typing on a phone or tablet. That is a shame, but in a way, it makes each comment even more meaningful - you know that somebody really wanted to say something or they wouldn't have bothered. (Either that, or they're old school and prefer interacting on a computer.) And that is something that deserves thanks, though I think many of us like to say something a little more substantive. We all like to talk about our work, and most of us enjoy the interaction of fan community.

I typically will visit a commenter's page as a courtesy or curiosity, but feel that leaving comments just because somebody did that for me is a little bit disingenuous - this also seems to be the common opinion. I have pretty specific and narrow taste for comics; my subscription list is tiny, and if I'm not grabbed instantly by a thumbnail and description, I don't click through to check out the work. My life just does not grant me the spare time to read comics solely out of gratitude to their creators. I have to be legitimately interested in them, and my interests are limited. I've had a few enthusiastic commenters on my work who have disappeared over time, and sometimes I wonder guiltily if it's because I did not respond in kind - but ultimately, again, I only have time to follow things I am interested in, and nobody should have to apologize about somebody else's work just not being their cup of tea.

HOWEVER, if I do read something, I try to make a point to comment. I think most of us know how encouraging and motivating it is to get feedback, especially if it is thoughtful, and knowing by stats that people are reading but only hearing from one, or two, or none, can be discouraging. I try to remember that, and come up with something decent to say, particularly if I'm browsing a comic that doesn't already have pages of commentary. There are those that never seem to lack it, and I don't always bother saying something on those, unless I've established a rapport with the creator and know they look forward to hearing from me.
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30th Sep 2016, 10:14 AM #10
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Collaborated with my husband on this one. I do pretty and he does ugly, so...

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14th Jun 2016, 8:52 PM #11
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I'm just throwing out a completely half-assed guess, and I suspect it's the same for most people, because really, does anybody check the clock at the beginning and end of a page?

I do everything from thumbnail to finale on manga studio, and I estimate anything from five to seven hours actual work time, once I subtract the collective minutes spent getting distracted during reference searches, hunting for decent background tunes to play while I work, trolling Google for random things that pop into my head, and scrolling down my Facebook wall. Then there's the minutes pulled by the twelve thousand forty-seven (on average) interruptions from my kids.

I think my record is four hours, and that happened because I was doing a speedvid with camtasia, and didn't want to have to keep pausing the recording or editing out dead time afterward, so I was really disciplined about weeding out distraction.

It really depends on how many complicated poses and expressions wind up on a page, how emotionally invested I am in how a character appears, and whether there is niggly hard-edged crap like complicated architecture or weaponry. And I recently realized the usefulness of the cut and paste method of repeating a character's face over several panels or pages. Assuming the viewing angle is still working, it's a lot faster to change an expression than to paint new faces every time.

All that to say it really does not matter how long it takes to do a page. You work it until you are satisfied. And I guarantee that in a year or two, you will look at the work you are doing now and think it is total rubbish and wish you could go back and re-do it all. That is just the nature of the beast.
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11th Jun 2016, 12:09 AM #12
Saeriellyn

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alston123:I love the fan art. It's a really nice drawing. Your banner looks cool too. I will check out your comic. I noticed that when I tried to click on the banner there was no link. If you are unsure how to link your comic to the banner, click on this: Need a Banner Link in my Signature


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Thank you so much! I have been wondering how to do that. All fixed now! :)
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10th Jun 2016, 9:05 PM #13
Saeriellyn

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Did my first fanart today...not a request or trade, just was in the mood to play, and Cato's Apprenticeship was the first comic I subscribed to when I joined CF. It's taken me a while to develop what anyone would consider a "style", but this comes close.

I love Cato because he reminds me of my own kid.

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10th Jun 2016, 3:31 PM #14
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Yes, thank you Rev! I was worried about her too. Lifelight, whatever's going on - we love you here! Hope things get worked out and your sweet and sunny spirit returns to CF before too long.
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26th May 2016, 3:38 PM #15
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My favorite character just got introduced. :)

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8th May 2016, 8:30 PM #16
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OMG I love facial expressions. LOVE THEM. I'm emotively-driven and my comic, though obstensibely fantasy/adventure, is meant to have a lot of emotional depth, so I zero on in faces a LOT, even in the middle of action and battle sequences. Seriously if I could get away with a comic that was nothing but my character's faces talking to each other, I would. But I guess that might get boring to everyone but me. :P

So far this has been my absolute favorite page as far as expressions. Just...mm. Yum. I don't know when I will top it:
Image: http://thebookofthree.thecomicseries.com/images/comics/107/15990253cdb719550138b9c375bdba7e1850698747.jpg


Another extremely important expressive feature: hands. I know everybody hates hands because they are hard to draw, but seriously sometimes a well-placed, just-right gesturing hand can say as much if not more than the face. Relaxed hands, clenched fists, hands gesturing while a character talks, gentle hands, clumsy hands...I'm obsessed with hands. I love the interplay between faces and hands. If what they are doing is contradicting each other that can tell you so much about a character. Smiling but with tense, anxious hands...not good.

Right now I'm working on a sequence where all you see of a character being introduced, over like four pages, is her eyes and hands. And between those and her dialog you know all about this character. It's challenging, but so, so rewarding. I love it. HANDS HANDS HANDS. :)
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8th May 2016, 7:06 PM #17
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In my case, because I'm adapting my favorite YA book, I feel like I'm creating the movie-that-should-have-been (Disney already did an animated version back in the 80s and it totally sucked). I've dreamed for decades of being able to see these characters and stories brought to life in a way that does justice to the original novel, and even when somebody does try to film it again (which is happening) I doubt I will be satisfied. So the comic gives me an outlet; a way of cementing my own vision, and sharing it with other fans.

I LOVE when I get comments from fans of the series. Having been involved in this fandom for years, there's a real sense of community built up there. But I also love that I have introduced a few folks who've never read the books to the story, and they're just as hooked now. That's an incredible honor to me. I'm stoked that I get to be the one to unfold this world to new readers. I just wish I could crank out the pages faster!
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8th May 2016, 2:00 PM #18
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Oooh, ooh, I love this! Because I can't be the only one who looks at work I did a few years ago, that I thought was so great, and go, "omg this sucks". Which is a good thing because it means I'm progressing.

I actually don't have my first page of my comic anymore because it sucked so much I re-did it. But I do have a spread I did about seven years ago, when I was just kicking around the idea of doing a comic, of the same exact scene I am working on now when I'm actually committed to the project.

So here's the 2009 version:
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And here's this week's version:
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Even though my basic vision of the scene didn't change, my skill level has come so far. I didn't know diddly squat about comics when I started and I'm learning so much about...everything. Effective character design, pacing, layout, value composition, making dialog bubbles more interesting...it keeps evolving.

And honestly my biggest lesson has been to STOP RUSHING THROUGH. I get so excited to get to the next page that I sometimes half-ass the one I'm on and it shows.

Also, ditched crap-for-brains Photoshop in favor of yummy, lovely Manga Studio. That was huge.
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7th May 2016, 3:41 PM #19
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Everything lifelight just said.

I'm still trying to crack the promotional art success code myself; I despise working in the tiny format, and I'm usually too busy working on the actual comic to want to spend a ton of time on little dinky banners and sidebars.

I guess I can see the point of your critic in that your ad shows a very eye-grabbing character who doesn't actually get much screen time in the story, but I think it's overkill to come down on you for it. Your comic is jaw-droppingly gorgeous, the story is fascinating, and all your characters are well-crafted. Anybody griping about some supposed bait-and-switch strikes me as somebody who just has to moan about something no matter what. In fact, you know what, the banner is bloody brilliant because it is symbolic of what happens to Ethan himself - a glimpse of this strange child inviting him into another world - and now she's doing the same thing for the viewer. Don't change it. Tell your critic to shut up. ;P

The whole idea that every character should catch the eye in some unique way feels gimmicky to me anyway. Characters are who they are and a good storyteller stays true to that. As far as the reading public, there's no magic formula that will draw every individual, so attempting to inject some feature or design to please everyone is doomed to fail and leads to rubbish like putting elf ears or candy-colored eyes on every character just because. Keep doing what you are doing Keiiii!
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29th Mar 2016, 2:12 AM #20
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Been a while since I posted here, and I'm loving working with a female character at last...

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