Comic Fury Webcomic Hosting - Forum search

You are not logged in. Log in, Register, More info
Forum > Search results
Pages: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [33]

Result in thread: Adventures of Arth and Tech
3 days ago, 6:03 PM #1
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
Ho! Behold! One DOUBLE update! One new story arc is upon us.
_______________________
image
image
3 days ago, 5:58 PM #2
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
image
_______________________
image
image
3 days ago, 5:06 PM #3
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
Wow, that outdoor panorama is really impressive.

-----
Today on "Arth and Tech": DOUBLE UPDATE!
- The start of a new arc.
- Commander on duty.
_______________________
image
image
6 days ago, 3:10 PM #4
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
image
_______________________
image
image
Result in thread: Adventures of Arth and Tech
6 days ago, 3:10 PM #5
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
Ho! Behold! It's a DOUBLE comic update: the Boss is watching.
_______________________
image
image
6 days ago, 3:10 PM #6
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
Aaaaah, an excellent joke. Though, if even one lawyer in the is anything like Phoenix Wright, that would be worth it.

-----
Today on "Arth and Tech": a double update! Out of the forest at last.
_______________________
image
image
Result in thread: Adventures of Arth and Tech
10 days ago, 5:34 PM #7
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
Ho! Behold! A new comic update: a ray of sunshine of the past.
_______________________
image
image
10 days ago, 5:27 PM #8
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
image
_______________________
image
image
10 days ago, 4:08 PM #9
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
"No one believe it exists" - that's practically a confirmation that it exists.

-----
Today on "Arth and Tech": a little red ray of sunshine!
_______________________
image
image
10 days ago, 10:52 AM #10
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
Well, I wouldn't say it's an entire show, but my biggest LOLWUT moment so far was when I saw the trailer for Sonic the Hedgehog Movie and saw how they gave Dr. Eggman a badass black coat. Given that I originally based my own evil genius on Dr. Eggman and then redesigned him to have a badass black coat BEFORE Eggman's movie design became known I was like "OH, COME ON!".
_______________________
image
image
11 days ago, 2:47 PM #11
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
I occasionally scout various myths, mainly the lesser known ones, to find some obscure creature that I can be inspired with. For example, shikome - hags from japanese myths that can be called japanese goblins, warlike and so much stronger than humans. Or gians - beautiful italian spirits, mostly consisting of women. They're fortune teller and have knowledge of hidden treasures.

Also, I have one special set of favorites - arachnids. Giant spiders, driders and the like are one of the most common yet terrifying monsters there are (especially me, suffering arachnophobia), but there is something fascinating to them, especially when you see them in media rather than next to yourself.
_______________________
image
image
Result in thread: Adventures of Arth and Tech
13 days ago, 6:01 PM #12
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
Ho! Behold! A new comic update: more flashbacks!
_______________________
image
image
13 days ago, 4:27 PM #13
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
image
_______________________
image
image
13 days ago, 4:04 PM #14
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
Ah, lemonade. The only thing that solves the conflict easier is tea.

-----
Today on "Arth and Tech": flashbacks!
_______________________
image
image
Two weeks ago, 8:38 PM #15
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
I know I'd take any possible "exposing" chill (once I calm myself from tearing my workplace apart and start thinking "What the peck could they have found about me?"). I've always been a chill guy and, given that I'm not very public about my life in social network and not very active there at all, there's hardly anything to expose about me yet.
Some private moments I'm ashamed of, yeah, there are (like being regularly dumped by guys and gals alike for quite some time), but then it's possible to charge those "exposers" on numerous things. Not to mention they're not really big or interesting.
_______________________
image
image
Result in thread: Sonic the Hedgehog (2019)
2nd May 2019, 10:59 PM #16
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
The Letter M:Ok then, act 2

It's worth note that I'm not saying there should be no other speaking parts, just that you only need the main characters of sonic one and two.

Just off the top of my head...maybe they help out some woodland creatures who say that they Robotnik is in a flying fortress. After some recon they find out that he refuels the airship at a place that looks like oil ocean zone. They go there, have a battle and meet Robotnik for the first time, defeat his robots but he gets away on the airship. Later on tails gets a hold of a plane and they catch up to the airship in a dramatic "sky chase."

sure that's just some loosely connected encounters and a chase, but you know what? Saving Private Ryan is just three fights in western France with an even simpler plot and that got Oscars.

Adding more characters because they thought that would add depth and complexity was a move Sega tried and everyone saw through it. They shoveled in more characters per game and they were just unnecessary fluff with nothing to do.



I'm not saying that you CAN'T explain why he doesn't use animals. I'm saying why WOUKD you? It's a really good motivator for Sonic to hate him and it instantly frames him as super super evil. It also puts his goal even more at odds with the hero. We don't just want a world without Robotnik in charge because we think he's probably not leader material...we can SEE him being a super jerk.



That's ndefinitely what they're going for. The easiest method. The laziest method. Why try to craft a narrative that risks falling flat and not being taken seriously? If we just do Sonic as a copy of Mr Poppler's Penguins we can't be ridiculed too much. No ambition, no risk.


1. Alright, your idea seems plausible, thus your entire point is plausible.
However, you brought up another point I can't help to argue - that being that SEGA "shoveled in more characters per game and they were just unnecessary fluff with nothing to do". Some characters work, some don't. One that doesn't work is Big the Cat - I like the guy, but he hardly matters to the plot of Sonic Adventure. One that does is Emerl, one of the protagonists of Sonic Battle - he's a well-developed character with his own subplot that doesn't distract from other characters of the game.
Given this, any secondary character introduced may or may not work, be it a character from the source material, an original "funny animal" character of a human friend or two, as we have it in the movie.

2. Fair point, Robotnik putting animals would be a good motivator for Sonic. Can't argue with that, but there are other ways to show him being evil - in Sonic SatAM it's shown with Robotnik ruling over the mechanized world, in Sonic X it's shown with Dr. Eggman assaulting civilian populace. And, for all the flack people give the first season of the show, Eggman's first attacks in here are actually VERY suspenseful, enough to build him as a credible threat.

3. It's only easier in comparision and it's hard to be lazy in a situation like that. As I said, everyone will hate it equally, so they will have to bring something new to the table. And, as we can obviously see from the trailer and reactions to it, "Yes, many hate it" and "Yes, they brought something new". A new interpretation of Dr. Robotnik (including his machines and entire aesthetics, reminiscent of the ones from Sonic Boom) seems to be the major point. And a lot of people like it if one is to look at the number of likes of the trailer and on comments other than the ones proclaiming burning hatred of all things related to the movie - it's easier to find those under the videos that are optimistic about the movie, of course.

Merged Doublepost:

MistakeNPotatoes:Hey look, they wised up.

From the article:

Today, director Jeff Fowler responded to all the criticism on Twitter.

“The message is loud and clear,” he said. “You aren’t happy with the design & you want changes. It’s going to happen. Everyone at Paramount & Sega are fully committed to making this character the BEST he can be.”


That's, what I believe, is their partial damage control, as to not risk alienating too much of the audience. The did tweak the design before releasing the trailer, from what I know. Hopefully, they will tweak the teeth (and the bottom lip, in my opinion, it seemed odd). I doubt they'll tweak general proportions or the eyes: the first one would most likely be too much to tweak without changing the release date and the second is something that brings the realism to the character the right way - a monoeyed hedgehog would not fit, whatever fans and haters say.
Also, there is a possibility that that minorly tweaked model is already being used by them in other promotional materials, if it even is. Hard to say at this point, to be honest.
_______________________
image
image
Result in thread: Sonic the Hedgehog (2019)
2nd May 2019, 7:04 PM #17
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
The Letter M:What?

You've got the hero, villain, tails can be around and as many poor animal civilians as you want. That's not a lack of characters. That's a concise cast. If they were more needed you could add as many more as you needed for the script though.

Why would a lot of filler be required? As far as I see the story has a lot of ground to cover.

Act one, set up the world horrible mechanised future where characters are routinely abducted by robots, Sonic is introduced as local hero who fights robots.

act two, the hart of the story where you expand on the characters. We spend time with sonic and tails as they go on a joirney to the source of the robots, finding out more about Robotnik and the workd as they go. Maybe we need some plot twists and turns. Some battles won, some battles barely escaped.

Act three, climax of the action they get to meet Robotnic, a big fight happens. If you're going for super sonic, metal sonic, scazy ass space station this is where you do it. Heroes win, maybe tails saves sonic in the plane. The heroes return home bringing the de-cyborged animals and Robotnik limps away to plan sequal. Maybe he walks into his backup lab and as the lights blink on we see Knuckles leaning on a table waiting...or blueprints for metal sonic, or the stone tablet describing chaos from adventures.



I think you'll find that this was the only time Sonic's story was working. When it became convoluted and he started walking around in cities too big for him with people and cars that was everyone's WTF moment.



Don't know what you mean here. He can be shown to be attempting to take over the world by stuffing animals into robot exosuits. Hasn't that been how he takes over the world? I also think that making them badniks would be the way to go. The more serious, indestinct looking robots with the bits of tech inside from adventures 2 onwards are just off theme and rais more questions. Like why aren't there animals in them? Doesn't he do that anymore? If not what is his new shtick?


1. I must admit, you have a solid point about the cast and the possible story structure.
However, your act two is exactly the point where everything can easily go wrong. In classic games there are no characters to have conversations with, except for Sonic and Tails themselves. And the structure of "pass a stage -> beat a boss" can easily become tedious and repetitive, just as the games done wrong. There are two solutions to that - add another major character to the cast or add filler.

2. I agree on the point of change being too sudden and too major. Some people liked the change, some people didn't - that's why Sonic's fanbase is so notoriously broken.

3. Narratively, it can be explained that Dr. Robotnik found more practical ways to create robots - by using Chaos Drives that appeared in Sonic Adventure 2. From the meta point of view it can be explained by the creators attempting to show Robotnik as more than a cartoony threat, akin to his Sonic SatAM portrayal, to fit the growing audience. But the changes were too quick and too sudden - as a result Robotnik's portrayal is inconsistent throughout the games, THE most notable aspect being that he's an evil genius who wants to take over the world. And since the movie-makers want to attract new audiences, they most probably based their portrayal on that one aspect.
We don't actually know if he's even trying to take over the world in the movie, now that I think about it.
_______________________
image
image
Result in thread: Adventures of Arth and Tech
2nd May 2019, 5:31 PM #18
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
Ho! Behold! A new comic update: memories of Frozen Capital.
_______________________
image
image
2nd May 2019, 5:30 PM #19
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
image
_______________________
image
image
Result in thread: Sonic the Hedgehog (2019)
2nd May 2019, 5:18 PM #20
SpiraPhantom

User avatar
Posts: 654
Registration date: 26th Mar 2018
Location: Mother Russia
The Letter M:They keep trying to reinvent something which is already demonstrably working. Sonic has legions of fans and there's no need to keep shaking it up:

Sonic lives in a cartoony, styalised world with a lot of naturally occurring racetrack like terrain with a bunch of other sentient anthro creatures.

There's a guy called Dr Robotnick (not eggman, sorry, I know he was always eggman in Japan but they made the intelligent choice of not calling him that anywhere else because it sounds stupid.) who captures them for bizzare experiments and to make an evil robot army.

Sonic wants to stop him and can because he is extremely fast and a radical daredevil.

Maybe you leave it at that for the first movie, maybe you want to have sonic not doing so well until he finds a bunch of chaos emeralds and becomes super sonic...I dunno, that might be hugging the game's story too much


There's not much need to tamper with that story, and there's a lot you can mine out of it. It's also broad enough to be done in whatever style you want. Maybe if you need to do a sequel you can include knuckles, the master emerald and metal sonic or something, but there's no need to go nuts. I understand that when new tech came along and they saw things like the 3D final fantasy games doing epic quests against cosmic, supernatural beings they wanted a slice of that but it only really worked in Sonic Adventure one because it was a new idea at the time, after that it was just a new zany god for every game. The other thing is that people already knew what the character was about and had seen him defeat Robotnick a bunch of times in the games. If you're doing the FIRST sonic live action movie and you want to lay down the foundations and context you can't go mucking around with story elements from the adventure era because you haven't layed that foundation. But that's just a matter of opinion, maybe somebody competent could make it work. It is all redundant anyway since the studio seem to only care about the name.

It looks like they've dropped anything that might have been compelling about any past set up in favour of doing a Roger rabbit riff.


That would be the case... had it actually been working. The basic premise lacks in characters and, as noted by GMan003, would be unfit to adapt into movie - a lot of filler would be required. Current portrayal of Dr. Robotnik is leaning more into "evil genius who wants to take over the world", I can bet anyone who's heard of him would think that first and "evil genius who turns animals into robots" second, if at all. Various adaptations of Sonic in media only solidified it.

However, with fanbase being hopelessly broken for many years, it would be hard to decide which version to adapt. It's far easier to create a new interpretation (that everyone would hate equally, because "It's not my Sonic!"). Thus, there will be a foundation, though different from what anyone expects. I agree that with someone competent at the helm it can work - I'm still optimistic that the person at the helm IS competent. Guess have to wait a bit longer to find out for certain.
_______________________
image
image
Forum > Search results
Pages: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [33]