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18th Oct 2017, 12:45 PM #1
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Being a freelance artist can pay well but it won't pay well right away. If you want a job that is going to guarantee you a good wage then healthcare (there are more good paying jobs in healthcare besides doctor) is a much safer bet.

Do you currently do commission work? If not you should start; this will give you an idea of how things are going to work. Get a pay pal account, start promoting yourself and building up a fan base. Until you have enough of a fan base you aren't likely going to be able to support yourself only through artwork, you will need a day job.

You also need to be honest with your self about the level of technical art skill you possess. The amount of money you are able to make will largely depend on the speed and quality of the artwork you are able to produce. Do you have a portfolio? Is it filled with professional quality work? If not you need to develop your skills until you have a professional quality portfolio to show to potential clients. You can do this by going to art school or practicing on your own. Both are valid methods of improvement and a lot of work. There is no short cuts to improvement just lots of time and effort spent.

I don't want to stop you from becoming a freelance artist but I do want to be well aware of the challenges you will face. Being a freelance artist is not easy and is not for everyone. I don't know you well enough to say if it is or is not right for you. I do know that you can have a career and create artwork on the side. Lots of people who have a passion for art do this and it is perhaps something you should consider.
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16th Oct 2017, 12:57 PM #2
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There are some really basic technical things that will prevent me from reading a comic.

If the website is not functional and or has eye burningly bad design. A website doesn't need to be great but it does need to function and have easy access to an archive. It also can't make my eyes bleed when I look at it.

If the font is really hard to read then I won't keep reading. If the font feels really out of place for the comic that is a major mark against it as well but not necessarily a disqualifier if it's still easily readable.

If the artwork is really bad I won't even bother to read it. I know that sounds really disappointing to artists that are just starting out but it is how I feel. The artwork doesn't need to be amazing but it does need to pass a minimum threshold of quality.

I also need to be able to understand what is going on. I enjoy some mystery, and I don't need everything spelled out for me but if I'm not having any fun because I'm working too hard to follow the narrative I won't bother.


There are plenty of comics that I'll read through the archives but decide not to follow. The main reason for me doing this is that I don't find my self particularly caring what happens with the plot. I like stories that take me on a ride and I'm not quite sure how they will end. If the story is too predictable and or the plot and characters are just not engaging enough I will stop reading.

There are times that I will keep reading a comic because I really enjoy the artwork but ultimately story will win out.
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15th Oct 2017, 11:10 PM #3
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I have a bunch of stories I'd like to do but I don't feel I can pull off because I'm not a good enough writer or artist. That's OK I'll get there eventually right now I'm just focusing on trying to be better than I currently am, rather then reaching some arbitrary skill threshold.

What you are feeling is normal and why I recommend that your first comic not be your "master piece". That's really a lot to expect of yourself when you think about it. The first time you try to do anything you've never done before it rarely turns out like you want. In my opinion it's far more healthy to treat your first comic like a student project. It's meant to teach you to be better, not be the best comic you'll ever create. For every webcomic out there were that the author has been wildly successful on the first try there are at lest 10 other unfinished first webcomics abandoned by the creator because their reach exceeded their grasp.

Don't be so hard on yourself. Accept that you will fail some times and that's just fine. Learn from it and move on. You don't need to be the best or perfect you just need to worry about being better than you were.
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15th Oct 2017, 2:24 PM #4
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There is no way I'd read a comic that updates twice a day.
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13th Oct 2017, 7:00 AM #5
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Hentai Foundry I assume. They used to be a general all around NSFW art site but then decided they wanted to be a classy NSFW art site and now will only approve "good" artwork. Thus why they have a waiting period.
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13th Oct 2017, 6:30 AM #6
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codeinvalid:i use inkbunny but its 1. a furry website and 2. filled with really terrible fetishes like incest and pedophilia which is a huge bummer and u gotta filter out


Use www.weasyl.com instead. No Pedo stuff, really nice staff (it is mostly furry artists though). You can filter content by taggs. Better over quality of artwork then Inkbunny (that site is cancer honestly). Still weird fetish stuff but it is a site were you can upload porn so that's to be expected. There is a SFW mode if you don't wanna see that stuff.

Tumblr is a really good place there's lots of NSFW stuff there.

Don't bother with DA. You aren't technically supposed to upload porn but it's really unevenly enforced and the rules are weird. Better not to even bother with it.

A few NSFW artists I follow also post on Twitter but I don't use twitter so I can't say how good a place it is.

You can post stuff on www.furaffinity.net even if it's not furry themed, just get ready for the bi-annual drama shit storm that inevitably happens. The management there is useless but it has a Huge amount of members. The community can be really good (and generous) but if it's bad get ready to have no help what so ever from the mods.
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11th Oct 2017, 1:50 PM #7
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It's not a terrible ad but I don't find it particularly compelling.

My main problem with this ad is you could crop out the bottom 2/3 and loose absolutely nothing of value. The snake's head seems weirdly small for how big it's body is. I don't know what's going on with the girl's arm but it looks uncomfortable. The font for "A scifi Dramedy webcomic about monster tamers" is a bit hard to read.

That red thing at the bottom is the same color as the chick's shoes which is confusing. The bottom 2/3's is very busy but doesn't have enough contrast so there is nothing to draw the eye. The red thing kind of just blends into the background because it's not significantly lighter or darker than what is around it.

Glancing at this ad what I'm getting is: snake, tits oh and there's some dude there also. It seems like tits are the most important out of all 3 of those things, because that's the highest contrast part of this ad and were your eye is drawn to.

Honestly I would not click on it. Ads that make tits the most important thing tend to be a turn off. There's not enough other things going on to overcome that for me. I find the banner in your signature to be far more compelling. It hints at some interesting creature designs, it uses all the space and all the characters seem equally important.
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11th Oct 2017, 12:57 PM #8
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I believe a sign of a good author is the ability to convincingly write characters they do not fundamentally agree with. Some of my favorite authors do that very well. I really enjoy reading things with problematic characters and where the author's actual opinions are some what obscured.


That said I believe art is about communication. One of the many ways to measure the success of a piece of art is how well it communicates the message the creator intended. Obviously no one is going to succeed at doing this 100% of the time. If you are getting consistent feed back from multiple sources with similar misconceptions then it's time to rethink how you are attempting to communicate that message.

If you are doing a poor job communicating your ideas it's not the audience's fault.

This is something I've run into with my own comic. One of my main characters is a terrible person. I try I make it clear that the way he acts and the relationships he has are unhealthy. Yet, based off of some feed back I have received, there are readers that don't see it that way. Granted they are coming to my comic with their own preconceived notions and biases that absolutely shape how they see my work but so is every other reader. It has made me really rethink how I write that character because I don't want my readers to get the idea that I think what he does it acceptable.

While I agree with the basic premise of this title I also think you can't completely disregard how the audience views your work.
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6th Oct 2017, 7:13 AM #9
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@Sovember

I would argue that the Joker's motive is to make everyone else see the world the same way he does. Which is a world that is not worth saving. That's why he is always pushing people to do terrible things. For him civility and kindness are just a facade' and with a few well placed cracks the whole thing comes crumbling down. His best joke he can tell is that you are no better then he is at the end of the day.

I don't really view that cartoonist over the top so much as deeply unsettling. Because to some extent you can agree with him. Everyone has a breaking point, even heroes, and he is really really good at figuring out what that point is.
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6th Oct 2017, 3:24 AM #10
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I feel the best villains are understandable. Even if the reader is not meant to agree with the villain they have to be able to understand why the villain does the things that they do. The reasons (or reasons) why the villain does the things that they do has to be believable. Evil for the sake of evil is boring and ultimately makes for a forgettable villain.
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6th Oct 2017, 12:45 AM #11
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I think a lot of it has to do with it being rather difficult to write compelling "good" heroes. The rise of the anti-hero comes from a desire for something more relatable. Yes they want to do good but they are also flawed, like the rest of us. It's why so many people identify with Disney villains instead of Disney princesses.

I love anti-heroes but that doesn't mean I don't care for heroic heroes they just have to be well written. As someone already mentioned Spiderman is a great example of a heroic hero done well. He has a personality, he doesn't always win, but damn it he tries. At the end of the day he is someone I'd want to hang out with because he seems real to me.

It's rare for me to come across things with Superman in them that I actually enjoy. It's not to say that Superman isn't a good character or that he can't be written well it's just that I very rarely come across media were he is written in a way I find compelling. It is difficult to write a character that is supposed to be the embodiment of everything that makes humanity great without causing that character to transcending into the perfection of godhood. That's because even the best of us have flaws it's a huge part of what makes us human and our heroes need to have relatable flaws to make them compelling.

Superman's greatest flaw is he cares too much, he demands perfection of himself because he wants to be that symbol of all that is good and right. While he maybe all but invulnerable himself the people around him, the people he cares about the most, are not. It's not impossible to write a compelling story utilizes those weaknesses but it's not easy. It would have to be a story that shows were his optimism fails him and were it also ultimately successeds and that is not an easy thing to do when you have a character that can literally punch planet killing meteor into space. Cus the latter seductively easy to write. I mean who doesn't want to see that? It's so easy to write him as a very flat character who punches and flies his way through problems with a smile on his face that writers seem to rarely put forth to effort to make him interesting.

I feel that's the problem with a lot of heroic heroes. The effort is not put into to making them believable and compelling and that's why things shifted to anti and flawed heroes because it's easier to make compelling drama with a flawed individual as the main protagonist.
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Result in thread: New York Comic Con!
5th Oct 2017, 8:46 AM #12
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Bring a backpack. A simple one that open at the top without a lot of pockets make things easy at the bag check.

If they don't let you bring your own bottled water, buy one bottle once inside and just keep refilling it (all the food and drink is going to be WAY over priced). Remember to stay hydrated! Note where the bathrooms are. If one is crazy busy you can go to a different one.

Get a program and figure out what panels you want to go to. You can plan your day around that. Scope out where the panels are being held so you don't get lost while trying to get there before they start.

If you have never been to a big con before you can get overwhelmed. Make sure you give your self some time to chill and maybe pack something to help with headaches.

Wear comfy walking shoes.

If you want to take a picture of someone's cosplay ask first! Also just because they agreed to pose for a picture doesn't mean they want to be touched. The same goes for their costume and props. They may be a lot more fragile then they appear.

Bring cash. The network connection is going to be awful because all the people trying to use it at the same time and some times the card readers that vendors are using don't work so well. It's much easier to just pay for stuff in cash.

Hope you have fun!
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4th Oct 2017, 11:08 PM #13
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Ambrose_Folly:I don't see what the big deal is. Just sit back and enjoy the scenery.

Realtalk tho: revealing clothing can act as a catalyst to the male hunting instinct. Normally this results in little (except as motivation for initializing the standard human courtship rituals), but combined with psychosis the combination can be dangerous. It's like if you run into a bear and get mauled. Sure its a tragedy, but if you had foresight then you wouldn't get mauled. Its more about what you are doing that makes a person vulnerable (as was mentioned earlier: blackout drunk/solitary). Blaming the attire is just the easy way out for both sides of the argument.


Dude you are not a bear you are a human fucking being.

Victim blaming is essentially saying that the perpetrator of rape/sexual assault could not help themselves because the victim made it easy or desirable for them to commit this act.

But really think about what that means. That means saying that the perpetrator when presented with this situation was unable to access all their higher reasoning abilities and basic human empathy. Do you realize how insulting that is when applied to an entire gender? You seem to by a guy that values human intellect and mental capacity as what makes us superior. By doing this you are basically saying that men are less human then women because occasionally they stop being human and fall into their animalistic "hunting instinct".

It's really sad that you think so little of your fellow men.
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1st Oct 2017, 7:19 AM #14
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If this comic idea is really important to you and you are serious about developing it further then please consider putting together a working script. Changes can be made after you get an artist to come on board but just having a something substantial to work from will make that process so much easier. Having a working script will also show you are committed to this project, highlight your skills as a writer, and give the artist a better idea just how much work is going to be involved ("short" is a relative term I have no idea what you mean by a "short comic").

Expecting an artist to drawn and make significant contributions to the writing of your comic for free is really quite unrealistic. At that point they might as well be working on their own project.

That's not to say what you are planning is a bad idea it's just that you might want to take some time to develop it further and then try asking again.
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30th Sep 2017, 6:10 AM #15
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Why do you have bandages on your hands and feet? Are you hurt? Do you need to see a Doctor? Am I doing this right?

And more importantly why aren't you wearing pants?
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29th Sep 2017, 5:48 PM #16
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A lot of places are starting to hire temp help for the holidays you might be find a job easier despite your lack of experience. It means you are gonna have to work retail, over the holidays.... but hey it's a job.
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24th Sep 2017, 11:43 AM #17
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Meh my young adulthood was filled with aspirations, then broken dreams and depression when I failed to meet those aspirations. Now a days I don't worry so much about that stuff. I've come to terms with idea that there are many paths to happiness. Just because I likely won't be able to succeed at one path doesn't that all others are closed off to me.

It really comes down to examining what about that dream made it worth perusing. There may be other ways to achieve what you were seeking.

I too had dreams of becoming a professional comic book artist, but that is not likely to happen. That doesn't mean I can't still pursue and improve my artwork. I don't need to be a professional to find enjoyment from what I do. In my experience the path to happiness is fill with compromise. Having ridged inflexible expectations of what success looks like will only lead to misery. It took me many years and a lot of failure to figure that out.
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24th Sep 2017, 11:24 AM #18
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An easy way is to make them funny. A great example of this is Hansom Jack from the Borderlands games. He is strait up evil but also hilarious. You don't find your self rooting for him but you do look forward to what new and creative way he is going to insult you. Zim from Invader Zim is also a good example in that he is so hilariously incompetent you kind of find yourself rooting for him.

The other thing to consider is that "evil" is somewhat relative. If your evil character exists in a world with a lot of other evil characters then they tend to seem less evil by comparison. I'd say Game of Thrones is a good example of this.

The most important thing is you have to make a good character with realistic motivations. While the audience may not agree with this character they have to understand where they are coming from. Like Magneto from the X-Men. He does a lot of evil things but you can absolutely understand why he goes to such extremes.
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22nd Sep 2017, 9:59 PM #19
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ChristianRepass:Call me a philistine, but what's the point of covers if everything is going to be online only? In my opinion, if it is all online and not printed, it's just filler before a chapter/part/whatever.


For me, the covers are a way to set up coming chapters apart visually. If chapters are important to you then I think having something to signify a break is also important for the flow of the story. Keep in mind that there are plenty of web comics that DO end up getting printed. As some one that owns a few "dead tree" versions of web comics the covers do fit nicely in an anthology.

I will admit they do somewhat act as filler as they are much easier and quicker for me to draw then a full comic page tends to be. But also they are just enjoyable for me to make. I like to use them as a way to set the tone for what that next chapter is going to be.
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22nd Sep 2017, 6:53 AM #20
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MissElaney:We should just kumbayah and watch Birdcage.


Hum that might have been the first movie I ever saw were gay men were portrayed as just normal (if not a bit eccentric) people. There are so few movies that do that even today.
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