spike vacant:lirvilas it's the kids themselves who become the fodder and the parents who are indoctrinated to push them down that path with the belief that their lives suck cuz of people in the middle east and central/south america and not cuz of their religious cult
I'm not talking about nice kids from the 'burbs outside of some nice blue state multicultural metro area
the kids in the shitty red states aren't joining either and ironically it's for pretty much the same reasons: their parents' loss of confidence in the nation's direction.
I would hope that it is both troubling and unsurprising to see crumbling support for a national institution that has been been slavishly and unquestioningly adored. (and I say this as someone who... well in another context I'd be fighting--fightin'!--with y'all over some of your other words) If Americans of all stripes are losing faith in even the damn military...
Nyomi:re: lirvilas, i think it's less so people in "unsupportive, ineffective homes" and people who like... can't afford college or desperately need to make some money to help their family or something. hell, back before i knew better i seriously considered it (because i am now $30,000 in student loan debt LOL). my dad joined for that reason too, i think.
you can be from a perfectly loving home and be smart and driven, but you can still just not have enough money to be able to go to college or even survive on your own. that's where the military comes in. free college, see the world, fight for freedom etc.? sounds sweet as shit at first until you realize what you're really fighting for.
you're proving my point that economic arguments for service only go so far
but back to my main point: ending Roe does not help the military now, and it doesn't help the military eighteen years from now either
pregnant = can't go to boot camp
single parent = can't go to boot camp
jacked up from lingering effects of pregnancy = can't go to boot camp
(father or mother with) excess number of kids = can't go to boot camp
unresolved legal issues i.e. child support not worked out = can't go to boot camp
mightguy15 :I disagree this is a right revolution or convoluted plan to help the US population mainly Because if that was the case the Supreme Court would have most likely tried to make abortion fully illegal On the federal level and all this did is give the power to make that decision to the States ( As I recall abortion is still legal in many States).
come on man, you damn well know that when the R's get the House, Senate, and Presidency they're going to ban abortion nationally. Former Vice President Mike Pence out and said it the other day.
Anybody gay, on birth control, or married/dating outside your race out there? Them Taliban is coming for us next.
Nyomi:holy fucking shit you know what? i just realized you're right about the army recruitment in poorer towns.
gonna throw it out there that kids who are raised in unsupportive, ineffective home and school environments are not what the military wants. anybody who thinks ending Roe is a plan to bolster the ranks doesn't understand the requirements of modern military operations and/or a thing called "immigration" lol
most people who think the military is their backup plan straight up don't qualify because of criminal involvement, inability to pass a written test, and/or medical problems
and besides, military recruiting's bigger problem right now is the deteriorating national political environment, where we don't find common cause with our fellow countrymen. people don't sign up to fight for a country they don't feel part of, no matter how good the pay
edit: fuck it, I'll say it out loud: turning up the temperature by ending Roe is not good for military recruiting