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4 days ago, 8:33 AM #1
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Sikyanakotik:The problem is that Netflix can only do that because they have a team of monkeys employees watching every second of video on the site and giving each video a ton of tags describing its content. The best we can do is have creators voluntarily tag their own work, and even there we'll miss most concluded comics and anyone who didn't get the memo.


Creators already tag their comics with a single genre, language, content flags, and art style. It's a requirement when making a comic. e.g. Today's Client is a Fantasy comic, in English, with no content flags, and the Furry art style.
For the page counts and average update frequency, that can be done automatically with math on the site.

Comics would only start getting left out if Kyo added an option for multiple genres (and art styles, though I admit that one's a harder sell). And even then, people would still get recommended the single genre comics, just not as frequently as the perfect matches (or they'd only be recommended the single genre stuff after a few weeks pass with no new perfect matches).

Also I imagine that a person whose favorite genres are Sci-Fi and Horror would be recommended solo Sci-Fi and solo Horror more often than comics that checked every box. But the specific math depends on how Kyo chooses to do the algorithm.

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Actually, here's an idea along the lines of what you were talking about -

What about an optional button for creators to put on their comic that automatically recommended similar comics? Not by genre and stuff like I was talking about earlier, but by common subscribers similar to how YouTube does it.

Yes, there's creators who put links to comics their friends make already, but that's a more creator-centric approach as opposed to recommending based on what readers are shown to like.
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4 days ago, 3:59 AM #2
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Something that could help get readers connected to the comics they want to read -

On many Content Distribution Platforms (I know Hulu does it, and... I think Spotify? Netflix? Apple Music? whatever) they open up with a "tell us your interests" page. The implementation of that is usually pretty annoying to me (i just wanted to check if one show was available dangit!), but the concept must help with viewer engagement or all these companies wouldn't keep doing it.

So my thinking is a banner at the top of the front page that would say something along the lines of "looking for new comics to read? tell us your interests and we'll find them for you!". Clicking that would take the user to a page where they can enter their favorite genres, how long of a comic they want to get into (upper and/or lower bounds), flags they're willing to read, language of course, favorite art styles, average update frequency, etc. Once that's all entered, the banner on the front page would be replaced with a list of recommended comics that cycles every day or week or so.

...essentially an enhanced version of viewing the Pop Now/Pop Overall tabs with your front page settings bungled up. Just with more options for your preferences and repeats generally avoided to keep things fresh.

(I'd also like if multiple options could be chosen for genre and, potentially, art style. That way if someone picks both sci-fi and horror for their favorite genres (or, say, both furry and cartoonish for their favorite artstyles), they can get the comics that really fit their desires.)

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Something that swamp said earlier (and the thread seems to have generally agreed with) is that the site doesn't really have a "brand" like "come here for your BL". And while that's true, I think it downplays a big thing that ComicFury does have going for it.

As a creator, the thing that attracted me most to ComicFury over the other major sites is that ComicFury lets you customize your comic to an incredible degree.

So, the logic behind my idea is that we should play the customization aspect up for readers too. There's a comic on this site for everyone - we just have to find the ones that are right for you.

(which is what swamp also said in their post but shhh)
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Result in thread: Story Arcs
5 days ago, 6:28 AM #3
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Not sure why this couldn't be in the other thread, since it seems pretty on-topic there, but...

My take is that if you frame the story like "here are my 7 story arcs, read em' like that or else" you run into the risks of 1. it being difficult for readers to jump in later, and 2. it being difficult to bail out early if you can't finish writing every arc.

Let's look at the poster child for shonen manga/anime, Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball currently has 15 major story arcs, not including GT. However, most people I know (i.e. Americans) only started keeping up with Dragon Ball at the seventh arc (i.e. once the series started getting dubbed). There are also fans of the series who only got into it with Super, and I've even heard of people starting with the Tien arc because that's a part they heard was good.
As for the other pitfall (and the one you're more directly referring to) - Toriyama could have ended the story after Buu, he could have ended it after Cell, he could have ended it after Piccolo Jr, he could have ended it after Pilaf, and while the Tournament of Power claims to be the end for now I seriously doubt that. Sure, there would have been plot threads seemingly dropped (Roshi asking Goku to train with him in the Pilaf arc, for example), and character arcs left unfinished, but there's been plenty of outs throughout the series if Toriyama was ever going to retire permanently.

(though these days even retiring wouldn't end it, because Toyotaro is obviously going to take over once that happens, but that's not really relevant to the thread's topic)

This isn't me telling you to go episodic, but story arcs should be able to stand on their own. There can be foreshadowing and callbacks, but your story should be modular enough where you can write an early ending without worrying about the major themes being thrown under the bus.


Also, if you plan on writing a long form story... do the math for your time estimates. For your own sake. Even at 2 pages a week, 7 arcs in 2 years is only 30 pages per major story arc. I seriously doubt that's what you were planning on for God Games.

Toriyama only got through 3 story arcs in his first two years, and the first 2 arcs ended up being the shortest in the entire series.


For the curious - my plan with Super Galaxy Knights Deluxe R is for each book (except the finale) to have something that Mizuki gains overall, but also show something that she still doesn't have yet. i.e. Book 1 she gained her magic powers and two new friends, but she doesn't have a romantic relationship like she wanted. That way, the series can end any book before 5 if I ever do get tired of creating this, and I'd just have to write the ending to be more bittersweet instead of looking forward to the next thing (though ending after Book 2 would be a bit weird admittedly, since this book has the least tangible things gained/things missing). And who knows, maybe by Book 5 I'll think of ideas to continue the series.
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One week ago, 8:01 AM #4
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Concept -

Up Taunt has Jesse taunting, Side Taunt has James taunting, Down Taunt has Meowth taunting. Simple enough...
HOWEVER -

The taunts change depending on if you input them right after each other. Normally Jesse just says "Prepare for trouble", James just says "And make it double", and Meowth just says "Meowth, that's right!", but if you go in the right sequence you can get through the entire Team Rocket motto.

More disrespectful than anything Bayonetta has.
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One week ago, 5:00 AM #5
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Granblue Fantasy is somewhat more popular than Dragalia Lost I believe, but the thing is that Nintendo doesn't have the game out on any systems (or directly own the IP). All they'd get out of it is that they own stock in Cygames - which isn't as big as the direct profit from a Dragalia character. I can see it going either way though.

My thinking with Team Rocket is that even though Let's Go will be at least 6 months old by the time this DLC is announced, Nintendo LOVES to nostalgia pander with Pokemon. And including Jesse+James+Meowth is about as nostalgia pander-y as it gets, they're by far the most popular thing about the Pokemon franchise that isn't already in Smash.

(Nintendo also likes trying to get people to buy their games months after the initial launch period regardless)

And yeah that's the thing, I can't think of any character who would be quite as internet-breaking as Cloud, because Cloud has already happened. Sora would be the best fit if only for the Disney spirits that should happen, it's just there not being any Kingdom Hearts games on Switch currently that's the issue. But then again, Final Fantasy wasn't on modern Nintendo consoles before Cloud got in. Maybe pointing to Sora's success as DLC would be Nintendo's way of pitching a port?
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One week ago, 4:22 AM #6
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FYI: https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/1059958604818657282

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate’s DLC line-up is now complete. This time the selection was made entirely by Nintendo. I decide if we can create a fighter based on their selection, then come up with the plan.


So in other words, Nintendo came up with a list of characters that would be good for marketing purposes/overall DLC sales, and Sakurai picked five from those.

With that said, here are my new predictions for our DLC characters -

1. That axe-wielding lord from Fire Emblem: Three Houses (or anything as long as it's not another sword lord. I get the feeling even Sakurai's tired of those guys)
2. Steve from Minecraft (being a popular third party game on Switch from a major developer Nintendo probably wants to deepen their ties with)
3. Someone from Pokemon - either Team Rocket, for the Let's Go sales/nostalgia pandering, or a rep from Gen 8
4. The main character from Dragalia Lost (Nintendo wants to push their mobile stuff that they're working on with Cygames)
5. A really out-there third party rep (but not an indie character). Someone who was specifically picked to trend on social media, even longer than Steve would. Sora, Doomguy, Dragonborn, Vault Boy, and Goku would be my picks to fit this description.

Oh, and bonus: https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/1059958663316615168

It’s great to dream about your favorite character joining the battle and I appreciate your passion, but please try to stay on topic when replying to tweets and refrain from flooding us, and other users, with requests when we're not specifically asking for feedback. Thank you!


In other words, "STOP SPAMMING WALUIGI MEMES".
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8 days ago, 10:59 PM #7
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Yeah, using online play could potentially help with that aspect. Since not only is it fairly easy to gather usage rates/win rates of all the fighters, but you can see what the most and least commonly used moves are.

(for example, in Smash 4, Mario constantly used Up Smash, Meta Knight heavily depended on his Up Air, etc. they can use online data to find out which moves fighters are overly dependent on, and (after looking through footage I'd hope) balance to compensate)
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8 days ago, 5:24 AM #8
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Of the newcomers, I'm thinking my mains will be a Belmont (probably Richter cause he's hotter) and an occasional Isabelle (I was ok as Villager, and she just seems like Villager but even better at ruining your life).

For the vets, I'll probably keep my Ike main from Sm4sh and pick up Ganon (I played him at a Best Buy demo and he's pretty sick, kind of halfway between Captain Falcon and Ike now which I like). And I'll keep Pichu on my belt just because.
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11 days ago, 5:13 PM #9
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My assumption for "Spirits Mode" is that the button on the menu screen actually leads to a submenu like Smash/Games & More do. Inside the Spirits submenu, there's World of Light, Wanted Poster Mode (aka better events), and all the training/treasure hunting stuff they talked about.

And honestly, that's a great way to organize things (better than Smash Wii U, at least). Games & More is home to the arcade-like activities, Spirits is home to the modes focused around progression (gaining spirits, leveling up spirits, world of light in general). So there's one disaster solved.

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If we're talking another Capcom rep that IS from Street Fighter or Mega Man - Chun Li or Roll would be my bet.
Roll would be more interesting with a broom up special, Rush Jet side special, Auto for her smashes, Eddie for her down special letting her summon certain (hopefully not OP) items, and probably Splash Woman's trident in there somewhere.
But Chun Li has a lot of history behind her and would be easier to implement so she's a possibility too.

OH and I forgot Sega as a possibility. Probably no more Bayonetta characters since the obvious choice would be an echo (and the other obvious choice is an assist). But... Tails could get in? Kiryu? Aiai?
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12 days ago, 5:56 AM #10
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EVERYONE IS DEAD (except for one Very Squishy Boy)

I would have loved Mach Rider, but honestly I like the way things turned out better than the leak. Incineroar is the starter I went with in Sun/Moon, and he's just so entertaining the way they implemented him. Piranha Plant looks super fun and unique (also strong - what the heck is that aiming neck shoot move? and that recovery? bonkers), and it's honestly just really cute in its animations. I'm all on board the Audrey II hype train.

Oh and Ken's my Street Fighter main (specifically in 2 turbo), so I'm glad he's in. Though let's be honest... he was obviously in the game, so it wasn't so much of a shock.

Also I liked messing around with equipment in 4, so I'm happy there's a version of the concept that isn't absolutely awful.


As for what's next -

Last time DLC fighters were mainly third parties (of the four newcomers, three were third party), and I feel like this cycle may follow suit? The logic being that the issues with acquiring rights aren't as much of a problem when you don't have as strict a timetable, and royalties are easier to work out when each IP is being sold separately (i.e. there's no arguing over what percentage of Smash's sales are due to XYZ's inclusion, since all of the sales of the DLC pack are clearly due to the one IP).

Who would they be? Probably a second Square rep (Geno/Sora/Lara/Slime/Chrono), a Ubisoft rep (Rayman w/ M+R stage), possibly another Capcom rep (Phoenix Wright/Monster Hunter), potentially another Bamco rep (Heihachi/Klonoa/some tails guy/like Goku i dunno), and maybe even a Bethesda rep (Doomguy/Vault Boy/Dragonborn)? Those are all companies that Nintendo seems to like nowadays.

It's tough to say whether a Microsoft rep(Banjo/Steve/Master Chief/Conker) would make it in, but they're leagues more likely than a Sony rep(Kratos/PaRappa/Ratchet & Clank/uhhh spiderman?). If nothing else, Microsoft and Nintendo do have crossplay with each others' servers (with Minecraft, Rocket League, and some other stuff i think), where Sony has turned both companies down. So there's probably a bit more of a relationship there.

oh and adeleine + ribbon as a new kirby rep please and thank you
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Two weeks ago, 7:07 AM #11
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Not sure if including Kill la Kill helps your "nudity in media doesn't have to be overly sexual" argument.

Like... regardless of your opinion on the series (genius parody vs blatant fanservice), Kill la Kill is pretty explicitly sexual.
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28th Oct 2018, 9:52 PM #12
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...(RockB):Considering how low the number of ratings usually given is - so far I've never seen a count of 10 or higher - the rating system hardly fulfills the purpose of telling the creator how well the page was received by the vast majority of the masses worldwide, every single rating given has a rather large impact on the result. Not sure how useful this is, then.


While the ratings don't really tell you much about the page, they do help with the comic overall. With enough pages, you get a general idea of how regular your readers are, how many of them bother to leave a rating and how many of those people liked your comic.

Also, recent ratings are one of the metrics used to determine who shows up on the Pop Now tab (alongside comments and... probably unique views, I dunno).

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All of which could be done with a "likes" system or a "thank you" button but still, ratings as they are aren't totally pointless just because the ratings per page is low.
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28th Oct 2018, 4:30 PM #13
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The dislike button is bad because I can't see how many people in this thread thought they were being funny when they disliked every post.
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25th Oct 2018, 3:34 PM #14
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I should mention that the specific reason dates are more convenient for me is that the "Add Comic" page has a calendar to schedule pages. So it's easiest to just look for the date of the latest scheduled page, and click one update day after that.
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25th Oct 2018, 6:20 AM #15
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I LOVE the new makeover! Though with the pages, it does mean I won't just be able to Cmd-F to see if I used a page title already, ha ha.

All seriousness, the one minor annoyance I have is the dates. In the old editor, the scheduled pages would have their exact dates listed regardless of how far away they were. Now, nearby dates are listed as "X days from now". This means that when I schedule a page, I have to count out to figure out what date the latest page is on.

But this isn't a HUGE deal, because it's only really an issue if your buffer is around one to two weeks long (big enough where counting is annoying, small enough where you don't see the actual dates), and if you post multiple pages per week.
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15th Oct 2018, 6:08 AM #16
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There are religions in my world, most of them with some real world equivalent (e.g. Christian-equivalent characters celebrate "Life Day" while Jewish-equivalent characters celebrate "Robanukah").

Are any of these religions "right"? Ehhh.... doesn't matter.

There is one character's religion that I plan on introducing in Book 3 which will explicitly be shown as "wrong" in Book 5, but it's really more of a minor cult than a religion anyway so whatever.
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12th Oct 2018, 6:02 AM #17
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I suppose SOME characters I end up going in name-first, just because I end up scrapping the character and going "well, no need to waste a perfectly good name". But that's because most of my names are randomly generated, and rarely have to do with their personalities. The only exceptions are characters who use aliases (Knife Man, Electric Zebra, etc), characters whose names are scrambled up after some mythological figure (Atalis Mons, Diamis Artene, Poly Henari), some sort of pun (Dide Vurst, Damo Lisen), and some other minor aspects (Zaxaty having the same first letter as her brother, Zofuhu having the same first letter as his alias, etc).

(also, fun fact - Mizuki's name was chosen late into the production of the original short film the comic is based off because I realized that for an anime parody, it would be slightly jarring for the protagonist to have a name that doesn't sound Japanese at all. Mizuki's original name? Pejiba Va.)


TBH I think the more interesting question (at least for me) is "which comes first, abilities or personality".

For Mizuki, Cahe, Pejiba, King Zebugu, and Mr. Enetoro, the personality came before the abilities/lack thereof (though for Mizuki, her character arc changed quite a bit once I had decided on her specific abilities).

For a certain recently introduced redhead... I suppose "mizuki really needs an edgy rival/occasional ally/potential love interest. just for kicks" came in at around the same time as "he stabs people"?

But for everyone else... yeah abilities came first. Surprisingly, "what if a character could reflect insults back at you, and they came true" came before "her parents were killed at a young age and she was forced into a gang lifestyle so she has trouble understanding unconditional love and also her growth is definitely screwed up due to carrying weights around since birth". And yes, Chief Horajufa being able to control model airplanes came long before him being Chief of Police or Pejiba's parents' killer.

. . .

OH WAIT Chill Bro was totally name first. No technicalities there, he's completely based off a stupid pun.
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9th Oct 2018, 4:16 AM #18
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The only one I've really put any real thought into is Cahe being voiced by Travis McElroy.

If I had to put a finger on the voice I hear when I do Mizuki's dialogue it would be... Tara Clancy, I guess? At least that general sort of accent and tone of voice.

Someone once suggested Gynu and Suzigu looked kind of like Arin Hanson and Suzy Berhow. And that's funny enough where I guess they work for those voices.
And I guess that means Danny Sexbang is Electric Zebra? Though personally, I'd peg him as more of a Jemaine Clement.

Oh and get Danny Devito in for Mr. Enetoro please.
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6th Oct 2018, 7:15 PM #19
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So far the number of pages in each of my completed chapters is 12 - 26 - 43 - 37 - 39 - 70 - 60 - 48 - 40 - 29.

Not exactly even.

The thing is, "chapter" isn't a meaningful distinction. In a restricted format, it's just a way to count out 20 pages (and ideally none of the chapters would end mid-sentence), and in non-restricted formats it's just a way to distinguish where the story beats begin and end. I can't really think of any medium where both are true. In manga, some story arcs are one chapter, while others take up dozens. While making sure each chapter has a reasonable start and end point can help you keep the story well-paced (though it can just as easily ruin the pacing), the number of pages per chapter won't really affect the length of your story arcs. So, I don't see the point in worrying about them.

(yes, I understand manga also has to fit in volumes of 4 or 5 chapters, but that doesn't mean anything for story beats either, particularly in an arc that spans ~20 chapters)
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30th Sep 2018, 4:34 AM #20
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argylefox:In Doctor Who, "Kill the Moon" and "Forests of London" has put me off so much that I haven't watched it since. I'll catch up one day, but... DAMN they were bad.


Series 8 had some BAAAAD stuff in it. Capaldi's acting wasn't able to save it for me.

At least the show finally picked back up with Series 10. Like, enough where I almost wanted another season with 12 and Bill.
Not enough of a want where I'd be willing to keep Moffat on though, lol.
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