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"Stupid boring art jobs.", 8th Mar 2018, 11:32 PM #1
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I just finished colouring 150 images to be used in a language acquisition app. (They asked politely for colour 10 days before deadline).

I'm never doing a job like that again.

Anyone else here done any stupid/boring/irritating jobs that they regretted taking (but would probably still do again anyways because, hey, money)?
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8th Mar 2018, 11:47 PM #2
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Location: , location -- they say it's important. But where you are can be gone, in the smallest of moments. When breath it gets ragged, when the blood won't stay in... I fought death for your love -- I couldn't possibly win.
joeyballast:Anyone else here done any stupid/boring/irritating jobs that they regretted taking (but would probably still do again anyways because, hey, money)?

I'm open for commissions, so no.;)


...srsly tho, the most irritating moment in my entire art "career" would have to be the time I agreed to illustrate a friend's comic book series. I made it most of the way through issue #1 before I illustrated the "magic garden" in his script. I put banana trees in there, and he wouldn't have it. "It's a MAGIC garden," I argued. "Germany's too cold for banana trees," he continued insisting. "Yeah, but it's a MAGIC garden," I more or less pleaded. Nope. Can't have it. He made me erase them and replace them with corn. The visual impact was destroyed. The magic garden suddenly seemed very average, far too believable. My enjoyment of the project was destroyed. I was bringing true alacrity in my "A" game, yet, despite possessing great imagination, he couldn't follow me there on this point. I finished the issue, but then quit the book.

That's when I got serious about writing SwordCat Princess. I needed more creative freedom.
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9th Mar 2018, 1:15 AM #3
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^ I hope you were getting paid for the extra time, at least.
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9th Mar 2018, 1:20 AM #4
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Location: , location -- they say it's important. But where you are can be gone, in the smallest of moments. When breath it gets ragged, when the blood won't stay in... I fought death for your love -- I couldn't possibly win.
C.S. Jones:I hope you were getting paid for the extra time, at least.

Ha, I forgot to mention: I was working for free, with us both hoping the book would make money after publication.
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9th Mar 2018, 1:39 AM #5
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Aw man, that sucks. I am DONE with working for free.

I used to do free work for someone once in a while and once they started giving me 'notes' and not once saying 'thank you' I swore never to work for free again.

Though it's tough to say 'no' to friends and family. I can see why you would do work for free for a buddy.
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9th Mar 2018, 1:44 AM #6
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I've had a commissioner flake out on me and cease communicating. It was some particularly funky fetishist who was into Drider porn of all things.
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9th Mar 2018, 1:52 AM #7
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Not really. The only thing I dislike about commissions is that it takes my time away from working on my webcomic.

But my webcomic is an unpaid hobby project so I need money.

I tend to charge high enough for my commissions to make it worth my while and never work for free.
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9th Mar 2018, 2:00 AM #8
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Caley Tibbittz Collopy:Ha, I forgot to mention: I was working for free, with us both hoping the book would make money after publication.


Then kill him.
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9th Mar 2018, 2:02 AM #9
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Correct response :)
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9th Mar 2018, 2:24 AM #10
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I have reached a level in my art where I will not work for free unless it is on my own time. Everything else is for payment otherwise or no deal. Pardon me if I sound like a Scrooge, but I am already doing a webcomic for free and it will not be my last one either. To keep making it happen and give people what they want (prints), I need money to afford better tools to make what they want. Otherwise, if you give me the minimum, you get the minimum. Or nothing.
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9th Mar 2018, 2:43 AM #11
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I have a friend who is writing this thingy, I'm not entirely sure what it is, maybe a book, or tv script? IDK. Anyway she asked for me to draw the characters, I've drawn a few of them, but I can't really put all of my time to drawing them, since I'm doing it for free and I'm pretty sure she just asked me because unfortunately I am 'the art friend' and I have trouble telling friends 'no' when it comes to art.
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9th Mar 2018, 2:56 AM #12
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Not so much a "job" but somebody asked me if I wanted to do a collab once. It was my first ever so I excitedly agreed. They drew something and asked me to color it and I don't even like coloring my own stuff very much. I like to draw, coloring isn't my thing. If I wanted to color somebody else's stuff I could pick up a coloring book or something, at least that would be more professional looking art and not somebody's random OC I don't care about. I bitterly colored it because I said I would, and they asked to do another and I declined.

I was pretty disappointed with my first collab experience.
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9th Mar 2018, 3:38 AM #13
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C.S. Jones:Then kill him.

Ironically, his favorite go-to phrase when someone is annoying him is "Die." But with a Midwestern cowboy accent.


Another really unpleasant job I did was for my mom. She wanted these large single-panel storyboard-like illustrations to use as examples of her commercial concepts for an advertising presentation. I knew exactly how to make them all excellent and vibrant and cool... and she didn't get it. At all. She didn't understand my pretty damn clear thumbnails, she fought me on the character designs, and just generally pushed back on EVERYTHING. Since she's my mom, I totally railroaded the whole thing and just did exactly what I wanted to, even though she was convinced absolutely that my approach wouldn't work.

She loved every piece I did. And we only wasted several hours arguing about it all first.
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9th Mar 2018, 6:03 AM #14
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Caley Tibbittz Collopy:Ironically, his favorite go-to phrase when someone is annoying him is "Die." But with a Midwestern cowboy accent.


Then kill him with a six-shooter, in a quick draw.
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9th Mar 2018, 6:24 AM #15
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Few years ago I made a work safety pamphlet for a corporation. Pay was really good and I had a lot of freedom. BUT...

I made several character designs for the client to choose from, she picks the most generic one. Ok then, no problem if you want the weakest one, just a little disppointing. The actual problem was the text she was sending me.

I got the draft version almost right after design picking so I could start illustrating. I could also make a mockup layout with it to test illustration and text placement and get all the print specs ready. I was done in like 2-3 months. And then she doesn't send me the finished text for MONTHS. She didn't cut the communication but she always cited being too busy at work to finish spellchecking and adding some stuff.

Around 6 month mark I politely asked if I could be paid already. I got half. Then, when almost a year had passed, I finally got the finished version and request to finish within few days. During Christmas holidays. When I was at my parents. Away from computers that had InDesign. Send her a email asking if deadline could be pushed back a bit and it thankfully could so I didn't have to cut my holidays in half so I could travel a few hundred kilometers back to my own home and school's Macs.

After I was home, I swiftly finished the job, sent it, and got paid rest of the sum. If I didn't know the client, the corporation (I worked there multiple summers) and had a black on white contract of being their employee (I didn't have all the legal requirements for being hired as a freelancer being a student and all), I'd have done something waaaaaay earlier. But during the year I just entered "fuck it" state of caring. It hadn't taken me too many hours total during the evenings so even half the pay left me with comfortable hourly rate. And I did get the whole sum, even if very delayed, without having to fight.

Seriously, next time I take on a job involving also getting things ready for print, I'll definitely be on lookout for unfinished texts.

Commissions have never given me grief at least.
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9th Mar 2018, 7:06 AM #16
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Out of curiosity, where are you getting these art jobs? Because quite frankly, I could use some since my situation here in California is tough money-wise.


And yes, I do have some tales of boring art jobs. Back in the Philippines 5 years ago, I was tasked in designing tarpaulins. The specifics were to have them include the company logo and have the appropriate color scheme. It was a really easy job but very mundane as it wasn't very flashy. It did help me in terms of improving my photoshop skills. I got paid for it and it was good.

Which brings me to my next one. I was tasked by an associate to design a banner for his website. he gave me the specs and wanted me to put in the title of his webpage and its abbreviation. And most importantly, it must look technological. It is a tech company after all.

I made that work by applying a gradient tool, a few brushes and a choice photo from a trip I had in Japan's airport and made it look all technological by rotating the image. Nothing says technology than architecture. I got paid... in Platinum. Which was a currency in Warframe as I was obsessed with it at the time. 40 dollars worth.
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9th Mar 2018, 7:45 AM #17
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Maxis-Geryon:Out of curiosity, where are you getting these art jobs? Because quite frankly, I could use some since my situation here in California
is tough money-wise.


As unhelpful as it sounds, I've got my best paying gigs through networking. ^^'

Pamphlet work I talked about was for a company I had worked before (totally unrelated summer jobs). Bigger commissions have been either for friends, acquaintances or people I met at conventions while selling at the artist alleys.

I haven't really done commissions for a while now but when I did, I got some by simply advertising here, tumblr and deviantart. Next time I'll also do that on twitter. I've also got some by applying for people already seeking someone to draw a specific thing on Deviantart's forums.

There are also websites catering for freelance work, for both employees and employers. I'm on phone so I can't link them but googling for freelance work should give some hits at least.

Granted, I'm slightly rusty with seeking art jobs since I've mostly sold finished pieces and comics lately.
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9th Mar 2018, 9:37 AM #18
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can't really complain since i get $60-80 a piece, but i have this one art commission customer who has me draw his OCs for some tolkien-style book he's writing, and one of the characters is a woman with massively large hips and fake boobs which are actually a fucking full-sized barrel strapped to her chest

he swears it's actually relevant to the story and it's not a fetish (idk what to think honestly) but wow it's awkward when he's very particular about the shape of her hips

he's also just a kind of annoying, overly-friendly dude who keeps calling me his "friend" in our conversations when i think i explicitly said to him that you can't force friendship... whatever ig, he's not scary or creepy or anything just annoying overall

but hey money is money yeah
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9th Mar 2018, 4:11 PM #19
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Damatris:As unhelpful as it sounds, I've got my best paying gigs through networking. ^^'

Pamphlet work I talked about was for a company I had worked before (totally unrelated summer jobs). Bigger commissions have been either for friends, acquaintances or people I met at conventions while selling at the artist alleys.

I haven't really done commissions for a while now but when I did, I got some by simply advertising here, tumblr and deviantart. Next time I'll also do that on twitter. I've also got some by applying for people already seeking someone to draw a specific thing on Deviantart's forums.

There are also websites catering for freelance work, for both employees and employers. I'm on phone so I can't link them but googling for freelance work should give some hits at least.

Granted, I'm slightly rusty with seeking art jobs since I've mostly sold finished pieces and comics lately.


Pretty nice, thanks!
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9th Mar 2018, 5:00 PM #20
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Gonna have to be in the same camp as Damatris. A lot of my big project work comes from networking. It went from older brother, to older brother's mother in law, to mother in law's university colleagues, to larger education app projects.

But I do get some commissions from advertising on Reddit. I get a LOT of commissions at conventions. As well as commissions from friends of the people at the conventions. Word of mouth is a hell of a thing. You just have to be sure you're offering something others can't (in my case, speed and the ability to capture a semi-decent likeness).

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Caley Tibbittz Collopy:Ironically, his favorite go-to phrase when someone is annoying him is "Die." But with a Midwestern cowboy accent.


Another really unpleasant job I did was for my mom. She wanted these large single-panel storyboard-like illustrations to use as examples of her commercial concepts for an advertising presentation. I knew exactly how to make them all excellent and vibrant and cool... and she didn't get it. At all. She didn't understand my pretty damn clear thumbnails, she fought me on the character designs, and just generally pushed back on EVERYTHING. Since she's my mom, I totally railroaded the whole thing and just did exactly what I wanted to, even though she was convinced absolutely that my approach wouldn't work.

She loved every piece I did. And we only wasted several hours arguing about it all first.


With one of my jobs I had a problem like this. My sketches, though clear, are nowhere near what my finished art looks like. Eventually I just stopped showing them any sketches or thumbnail work at all and delivered the finished product ahead of schedule instead. Never had a problem after that (which was weird...)
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