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"Going to end Last Spork in the Universe after my special.", 11th Jul 2018, 4:03 AM #1
SMAComix

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What are good ideas to improve on coloring and formatting? I wound up finding my comic on the forums of the Bad Webcomics wiki.

I am going to end my comic and start something else.
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11th Jul 2018, 5:54 AM #2
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Woa, still waiting to find mine on there.
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11th Jul 2018, 6:43 AM #3
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I would suggest using a different art program than whatever you're using now - practice making everything cleaner and easier to read and avoid as much visual noise as possible.

As far as colouring goes, it's just a matter of practice.

Also I'm not sure what that smudge effect is or why it's been used. What is it supposed to be?

Edit: Good luck.
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11th Jul 2018, 12:18 PM #4
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Do whatever you want. Obviously if you feel you need to make improvements then put in the effort and make them, but don’t be driven by the random brayings of those barnyard creatures. They talk a lot, but BWW is self-selective for failure; if those kids had the requisite discipline for sustained work or sustained criticism they’d be doing something else. Not surprising, as one of the few things with less reward than a webcomic is webcomics reviews.
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11th Jul 2018, 12:45 PM #5
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Seconding this. Taking feedback that you feel is valuable and using it to focus on areas to improve on = good.
Stopping doing something you enjoy because of people who spend a significant chunk of their spare time teasing free-to-read online content = bad.

I also agree with Catburger that I think your main issue is clarity. I think you'd see a big improvement if you concentrated on being neat and precise, cutting down on the number of lines you use, and making sure you've got neat comic panels with gutters.
Check out Scott McCloud's books on comics if you haven't , they're a great starting point!
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11th Jul 2018, 1:03 PM #6
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Bad webcomics wiki has hardly any content anyway. I notice they haven't even made a page for your comic, just some discussiln. That seems to be all they do.
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11th Jul 2018, 1:16 PM #7
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Instead of ending your comic, just improve it. The Badwebcomics Wiki says a lot of comics are bad when they're really not. A good 90% of what is there are really just comics that either just have some quirks that can be fixed or are only subjectively bad to some people. In other words, take the criticism with a grain of salt not as a sign to wave the white flag. Unless you want to stop writing your comic because you really want to, who cares what others think? People give bad reviews all the time to things that really don't deserve it. You're not the exception and like them, don't let their words defeat you.
11th Jul 2018, 2:25 PM #8
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The Letter M:Bad webcomics wiki has hardly any content anyway. I notice they haven't even made a page for your comic, just some discussiln. That seems to be all they do.


That's not how it works. You can't just create an article on the Wiki (sure, you can technically but it will get deleted). Someone (like anyone can do this) has to nominate it on the forums and a group consensus has to be formed in the forums and then the review had to be approved for inclusion. Going by the end results, it may not on average be a good process but it is a thorough one. It's how El Goonish Shive has come up at least three (if not more) times and ended with a no consensus hence denied up to now.

Getting this out of the way now, I don't touch Comic Fury comics. I don't nominate them and I don't enter the forums about them. These days I basically stick to things like "How does Patreon work" and "How does Kickstarter work" etc. Even before, I stuck to the stuff that really offended me (you know, closer to the Shädbase/U.S. Angel Corps end of the spectrum. In fact, I haven't even been posting in the forums since November 2017.

Anyway, I don't know what they're doing here at all and seriously, just make your comic however you like it for as long as you want. In general, there can be good advice sometime but increasingly most of the energy there seems to be going into arguing the evils of socialism and the Leftist agenda while totally failing to understand what either actually are. A lot of Ayn Randian survival of the fittest hot takes and the worst possible spin on like ... just everything over there far too often for my liking TBH.
11th Jul 2018, 3:35 PM #9
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Bad Webcomics Wiki:
Getting this out of the way now, I don't touch Comic Fury comics. I don't nominate them and I don't enter the forums about them. These days I basically stick to things like "How does Patreon work" and "How does Kickstarter work" etc. Even before, I stuck to the stuff that really offended me (you know, closer to the Shädbase/U.S. Angel Corps end of the spectrum. In fact, I haven't even been posting in the forums since November 2017.


Your post history is great.

Are you ashamed to be associated with them or something?
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11th Jul 2018, 5:21 PM #10
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Hey don't be upset that those ass clowns noticed you, think of it like Weird Al parodies, you know you've made it when the trolls notice you. (And actually that's kind of an insult to Weird Al, he's actually a good muscian and a funny guy, the BWCW is just a bunch of talentless trolls whining about people who get more done than them). You talk about complex social issues so of course they jagged you, they jagged Strong Female Protagonist because they didn't understand any of the philosophy chapters (and instead only got all manby butthurt over the storyline with the super killing rapists).
The only semi-intelligent reviewer as seen above doesn't even do reviews anymore, I suspect it's about to go through another shed period where the trolls have taken over to scream and rail against social justice (because the pinnacle of Western achievement is Southpark, and caring about things is lame), and the ones actually interested in doing reviews will just start a blog like normal people.
I don't think you should quit, just take what you think might be any constructive critisism (if any) from it and ignore the rest as just mouth-farts. Anything they said about social issues or gender issues you can safely ignore.
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11th Jul 2018, 6:02 PM #11
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bad webcomic wanker:That's not how it works


As I said, load of talk. 0 content. If you hit random page 5 or six times you'll get a double up. Back under the bridge.
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12th Jul 2018, 1:42 AM #12
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Thanks everybody for your support and input. I am not angry or upset anymore.

I admit, I have to improve on everything and yes, most of the internet is just filled with angry politician wannabees willing to find a victim. I am willing to forgive them even if they do not ask for it. AFTER I finally finish the comic for good, I am going back and rectifying my mistakes. I have family to take care of and stuff to do and I've seen my fair share of hard times. I have no time to play the lolcow.

I did get more attention thanks to the special I am completing and that attracted them.
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12th Jul 2018, 2:31 AM #13
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I propose that proof of one's skill is in what is being made today, not what was done two years ago... or even last month.

I very strongly recommend starting the next thing and not burning up any time and energy on completed works.
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12th Jul 2018, 2:40 AM #14
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That freakin' blows, there's a lot of cynicism and bitterness on the internet don't take mind to it! The honest answer is you should do what YOU want, be proactive for your own sake don't do anything as a sort of knee jerk reaction to jerks biting at your insecurities for sick kicks. Before looking up any art tutorials though be comfortable with any decision you make. Whether you continue with this or not, there's no shame it's your life and there's no one to impress really!
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12th Jul 2018, 2:41 AM #15
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As someone struggling for a long,time on art, honstly I would care less if I got a article on that wiki.
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12th Jul 2018, 2:44 AM #16
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@ewolf:

Yeah, yeah you would.

Rip up many a work they can, and either an author smiles and rolls around in the additional traffic, or they curl up in the fetal position and cry themselves to sleep. Or both. Point is, it's all meta... the art still needs to get made regardless of what BWW (or anyone else) has to say about it.
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12th Jul 2018, 3:49 AM #17
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Catburger:Your post history is great.

Are you ashamed to be associated with them or something?


No. A rarity on the web, they'll actually debate you (and not ban you or crush you with like-minded weight of numbers even if you don't agree with the majority point of view) and you've really got to bring your A game (or at least my A game). I say 'they' because I might be only resident lefty there (people on my side of the fence seem to be few and far between and don't always last long). Still, the general mistake is thinking of it as a unitary hive mind when it's more of a freewheeling anarcho-collective. No-one can control what anyone else is doing, hence here we are. There's really no plan as to what gets nominated.

I have no personal regrets, I found this place and a lot of other webcomics and made a lot of friends and got to do stuff all starting with there. I don't touch Comic Fury stuff because it'd be a conflict of interest or at least the equivalent of being invited to someone's house and leaving something unpleasant in the bathroom, you know?

Merged Doublepost:

The Letter M:As I said, load of talk. 0 content. If you hit random page 5 or six times you'll get a double up. Back under the bridge.


It's too late for that. I've got to go.



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12th Jul 2018, 4:00 AM #18
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Hey everyone been a while, sorry I'm late. What did I miss?
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12th Jul 2018, 4:14 AM #19
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Funny enough it was reading BWW reviews that got me wanting to start making a comic in the first place. Laziness and life got in the way of continuing it hey at least the idea is there

Really, just do what you want. It's a hobby, so continue it or finish it and fix things or just move on to something else, whatever keeps it fun for you
12th Jul 2018, 5:15 AM #20
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It is your choice, in the end.
But will you have the courage to start something new, or will the assholes win, because they destroyed your confidence in yourself and your work?
I'd hate to see you becoming a person who's running around with her tail between her legs, because once the assholes sniff a weakness, they will use it for more demonstration of power. 'Lolcow' - it is not something you can prevent, even if you get the Pulizer prize equivalent for comics.... If those assholes want to make fun of someone or something, that is what they will do.
So, I hope you'll be back with all the changes you want to make, and blow them right out of the water!
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