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"How can I make my art more "family friendly" or " pg"", One week ago, 4:02 AM #1
ewolf20

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So I'm in this discord server where sexual content is not allowed unless you have patreon. And since I don't like the idea of just dumping my money just for that, how can I avoid getting banned for posting art that !ight be perceived as "lewd?" . I wanna be more squeaky clean nowadays with societies ban on a lot of adult content lately.
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One week ago, 4:19 AM #2
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Oh that's really easy, and you don't even have to re-draw anything, just make a few edits. I suggest going into photoshop and just censoring the character's body, or drawing clothes right on over 'em! Like this:


It's hardly even noticeably 9/10 times.

But maybe instead of going through the trouble, you could sell your non-family-appropriate art to others and use the money to pay the server's patreon donation. Then it'd pay for itself and become a neat little cycle.
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One week ago, 9:40 AM #3
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Just throw out everything fun, original and mature and you will be good ;)
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One week ago, 10:42 AM #4
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Just throw the whole Discord server away.
One week ago, 6:31 PM #5
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"This Discord server doesn't allow sexual content so throw it away lol"

Full stop.

The owners of the server determine the rules. If anyone under 18 is involved in the server than of COURSE they're not going to allow 18+ content because exposing minors to that content is illegal, at least in the US, and thus violates the Discord ToS.

Now, Discord offers the feature to server owners to designate a NSFW channel, which provides a warning to anyone who wants to use it. But again, that's up to server owners whether or not to have one. I myself run a Discord server for my comic, and because the comic is for all ages, I don't allow NSFW content on my server either.

There are many other places online to share your NSFW art. I know tumblr took a big hit (because they, like everyone else banning adult content, are appealing to investors and advertisers), but I've been seeing people flock over to Twitter and Pillowfort, heck even Newgrounds and Pornhub. There was a thread addressing alternatives a while ago.

You don't have to censor your art to share it. You just need to be aware of the environment you're sharing it in. Making mature art means to you need to be responsible about when and where to share it.
One week ago, 7:10 PM #6
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i thought this was gonna be about swearing, not nudity. i’m disappointed

i’m seconding the recommendation to just find another discord at this point. an nsfw discord will fit your needs better than compromising your work entirely to post it to a sfw chat. nothin against either you or the discord runner- youve just got different goals, i think!

i also have my own rant about it not being legal to show people under 18 nsfw content when the age of consent (at least where i live, i know states differ) is 16, but that’s a topic for another day.
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One week ago, 8:22 PM #7
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One week ago, 8:26 PM #8
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This shouldn't even be a question. If you already know what NSFW is, then you should automatically know what SFW entails. Use your noggins.
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One week ago, 10:16 PM #9
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How attached to this server are you? If the art you like making isn't always PG, there's nothing wrong with that - and if you really like the server's community that's also okay - you can share your SFW art there and find another platform for your less family friendly content. I would say it's better to stay honest with what /you/ like and want to create than to shift it to fit a standard that isn't 100% what you're interested in.

Also, though they're totally allowed to make the NSFW channels Patreon-only, I'm sure there are tons of groups you could join that don't do that.
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One week ago, 10:53 PM #10
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Just don't use foul language and keep everyone clothed and classy. It is possible to be sexy and adult without even referring to sex and still be PG. Heck, I would say it takes a substantial amount of maturity to be able to be classy and adult.
One week ago, 11:00 PM #11
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ewolf20:So I'm in this discord server where sexual content is not allowed unless you have patreon. And since I don't like the idea of just dumping my money just for that, how can I avoid getting banned for posting art that !ight be perceived as "lewd?" . I wanna be more squeaky clean nowadays with societies ban on a lot of adult content lately.


Societal standards would respect your freedom to draw whatever you want. Websites are enforcing liberal standards, and the key to not being banned to to be absolutely sure your art contains nothing exciting.

Minimal skin exposure and no gore is a start. Make sure not to draw any suggestive poses or enhanced sexual features "large breast, large junk etc...."

Even if those things are present in your character, u shouldnt get too much flack, just make sure not too much is exposed.
One week ago, 11:18 PM #12
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I'd be very very suspicious of a "pay to show NSFW content" server.
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6 days ago, 12:55 AM #13
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I don't know if I'm just misunderstanding this whole dilemma all together, but...

how to avoid getting banned for posting art that might be perceived as lewd? Um, just...don't post art that might be perceived as lewd? X"D. Post characters that are...clothed? And not engaging in sexual activity?

I dunno, if you don't have any other type of art to share on this particular discord I second the sentiment that you should just find another server. I dunno what to say.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a server that doesn't allow NSFW. On the internet there are PLENTY of places to post NSFW stuff don't you worry XDD, but if a certain group of people doesn't wanna see it there's nothing wrong with that. *shrug* ....just my opinion
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6 days ago, 5:48 AM #14
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mightguy15:Societal standards would respect your freedom to draw whatever you want. Websites are enforcing liberal standards, and the key to not being banned to to be absolutely sure your art contains nothing exciting.


WHAT are you even talking about???

You've got it backwards, dude. Society is largely conservative and that's why we don't see porn out in the open. It would be more liberal to actually allow it at all! But, as I stated earlier, it can get people in a huge amount of legal trouble, and until that changes, there's not much to do but follow the rules set up by private groups and act appropriately.

And on a side note, can we all collectively stop with this notion that unfiltered NSFW art is inherently better, more "mature," more "exciting," more "fun" than SFW art? Or at least, more worth protecting? You really do not have to push a societal envelope to make compelling art, I completely reject that notion.

All art should be acceptable, and enjoyed equally. Some like riskier stuff, others don't. That's okay.
6 days ago, 6:32 AM #15
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Kelsey -Nutty- P.:WHAT are you even talking about???

You've got it backwards, dude. Society is largely conservative and that's why we don't see porn out in the open. It would be more liberal to actually allow it at all! But, as I stated earlier, it can get people in a huge amount of legal trouble, and until that changes, there's not much to do but follow the rules set up by private groups and act appropriately.

And on a side note, can we all collectively stop with this notion that unfiltered NSFW art is inherently better, more "mature," more "exciting," more "fun" than SFW art? Or at least, more worth protecting? You really do not have to push a societal envelope to make compelling art, I completely reject that notion.


Haha, maybe so, I have been getting a bit too involved in politics. But in my defense, it is a Discord server, and as far as I know there are no laws regarding what type of artwork you can and cant display or draw. Sure you can argue that perhaps child explotation should be illegal, but even the Supreme Court seems to agree that it may be unconstitutional to punish someone for not doing harm to an actual child.

Not saying that I support expoliting children, but I will say shocking content is within the bounds of some of the material people enjoy (manga called Berserk ring a bell? And lets not forget Loli culture), and I will also say that context is important.

Certinally there are some things we should hold people accountable for, buuuuut....

...there are also times where we should allow people to be free to do what they wish. Shall we antagonise furry culture because some people find the context offensive? Shall we antaganize vore as well? Shall we stop making comics that feature sexy women too?

Society is largely conservative? I cant see it, nowadays I would have to say I have noticed a more progressive audience in society,recent days for the traditional parties are in a strange time where conservatives are stronger champions for free speech than liberal are.
And liberals are beginning to support the ideologies they were once against.

Back on track though, was my argument, RULZ SUCCC U SHOULD DO WHAT YOU WAN BOOBIEZ FTW.

No, its not. I understand there are rules and my intentions were not to encourage people to disobey them. By exciting, I do not mean that these people who abide by these standards hate fun. I mean exciting as in sexually explicitive.

I do not like this new age of "Family Friendly" internet, its a bad sign for the future that we have people here who actually feel they need guidance on how to make thier artwork family freindly. However, I will respect the people who desire these changes, and while it is true I would like to see people do what they want (my fondest internet memory is being tricked into
, I do not think its a bad thing to be accountable for the millions of other users online.
6 days ago, 6:47 AM #16
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Kelsey -Nutty- P.:WHAT are you even talking about???

You've got it backwards, dude. Society is largely conservative and that's why we don't see porn out in the open.


Yeah, second this. It's usually conservatives who discourage porn and stuff like that.

mightguy15:And liberals are beginning to support the ideologies they were once against.


I really wouldn't trust Bode Lang's channel as an unbiased source of information, just throwing that out there.


Also, keep in mind that the server OP's talking about isn't against posting NSFW content. It's all for it, you just have to be a patreon member to do so. (Dunno if you have to be a patreon to view it, just that you can't post it unless you pay.) It's not really a question about if NSFW content is better or being oppressed or even illegal or whatever.

If anything it's about putting that kind of stuff behind a paywall.

Like I get that people have strong opinions on this type of stuff, but it has nothing to do with the OP's post.
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6 days ago, 6:59 AM #17
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Aah Fluffy...thanks for explaining in a way I finally get! Haha I guess I wasn't getting the patreon thing and I'm sitting here so confused about why this is even an issue lol.

...wait...

I guess I'm still confused about why it's an issue because it's easy to find places to post explicit content on the internets without having to pay for it. Just not on this particular server it sounds like :P. There's even a thread right here on ComicFury if you're looking! X"D

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On another note the thread was getting dangerously close to derailment with the political talk in my opinion..
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6 days ago, 7:00 AM #18
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Fluffythespider:Yeah, second this. It's usually conservatives who discourage porn and stuff like that.



I really wouldn't trust Bode Lang's channel as an unbiased source of information, just throwing that out there.


Also, keep in mind that the server OP's talking about isn't against posting NSFW content. It's all for it, you just have to be a patreon memeber to do so. (At least that's what it's portrayed like in the post. Dunno if you have to be a patreon to view it, just that you can't post it unless you pay.) It's not really a question about if NSFW content is better or being oppressed or even illegal or whatever.

If anything it's about putting that kind of stuff behind a paywall.

Like I get that people have strong opinions on this type of stuff, but it has nothing to do with the OP's post.


I was moreso addressing the statement "I want to be squeaky clean with society banning adult content and stuff." than I was addressing the post.

IDK, perhaps I took things a bit out of context. Maybe I shouldnt have addressed the statement and addressed the post instead.

Oh well, no harm done I hope. As I have said, I do not enjoy this age of a "family freindly internet" but regardless, I respect the resolve of those at the top of teh server.





Also, about Bode Lang, I dont particuallarly care for his channel either, I am aware noone is perfect. My point was soely displaying the ways liberalism has changed this day and age, and the video offers quite a few examples.

Also, liberalism doesnt support pornography either because they feel its explotitive to women

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6 days ago, 7:22 AM #19
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Yeah, that's why I felt like butting in. Feels like it tends to happen with things in this vein, suddenly everyone wants to talk about their political views.

Also, as to why someone would stay, maybe they've got lots of friends in the server. Or maybe this thread was meant to be more lighthearted than it turned out. I know I gave some less serious answers before.

But I swear to god if I was on that server and had some nudes I was itching to share, I'd do this:



Finally, proof that censorship can improve something.
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6 days ago, 7:02 PM #20
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Just cover it with shadows and be sneaky about it.

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