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"Obligatory Eurovision thread.", 12 days ago, 11:40 PM #1
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That's right folks, it's that time of the year again.

For the uninitiated, Eurovision is when Europe collectively comes together to settle their differences. Since World Wars weren't really working out, they opted instead for an annual song-off. Also, Australia loved it so much that we recently decided to let them join the fun.

The first round of semi-finals was tonight and the second round is on Thursday, with the finals being on Saturday.

So, by all means, discuss your favorites or laugh about the silly ones (past ones are also fair game). It's all in good fun.

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So, my country decided that there are too many lovey dovey songs, every year, so we opted for a BDSM themed ditty, called "Hatred will prevail"


(song comes with english subtitles)

You can also see their stage performance over here and it's really fun to watch people react to this song. We passed through the first semi finals, so we're going into the finals and I hope we will do well there.

But I have to admit. I was kinda wowed by the stage performance of Australia.

I mean... look at this thing!

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I often wonder how they do their best work in the finals. I mean, surely to get nominated and to rise to the top of the competition they are using all their A material. Do they have to throw together a new song and show the day before the final?
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To think I migrated to Australia to get away from the Eurovision Song Contest...and soccer... what a dismal failure that turned out to be ! B-) No-one told me about SBS .

Haha !
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The Letter M:I often wonder how they do their best work in the finals. I mean, surely to get nominated and to rise to the top of the competition they are using all their A material. Do they have to throw together a new song and show the day before the final?

No. It's always the same song.

The competing countries usually hold a local competition, to pick a song for the main event.

Back in the early days of the competition, it was only a one night event, but as more and more countries joined they introduced the semi finals, because having 40 or more countries all at once would take all night.

The format of the semi finals has changed a few times, as more countries joined in but the current version works like this:

Half of the countries compete on one night and only the competing countries get to vote on those songs.
The top 10 countries from each night pass on into the finals.
On the final night, all the countries, including the disqualified ones, get to vote of their best song.

In addition, there are 6 countries who do not have to compete in the semi finals and are automatically qualified for the finals. Those are the host country (the winner of last year's competition) and the top 5 financial contributors (UK, France, Germany, Spain and Italy). Obviously, if one of the top contributors were to win and host next year, there would only be 5 who get to skip the semi finals.
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Why is it still called Eurovision since countries from all over the world can participate?

Kinda lost track of it and I'm not even sure my own country participates this year. -.-
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It's still pretty much centered around Europe, with the noticeably glaring exception, that is Australia. As the competition has grown, more and more eastern block and middle east countries have joined the fight (plus the occasional Northern African country that borders the Mediterranean sea).

The organizer of the competition is the European Broadcasting Union. It was basically created to help facilitate sharing of clips and movies between members of the union and the only requirement for membership is that the channel is a public broadcasting service, like the BBC or PBS

When Eurovision was first set up, the only rule for entry was that the country's representative is a member of the union. While it was originally meant as a union for European channels, more and more channels from outside the continent have joined, either as full members or as associate members. You can see a map of all the members over here:


Australia has an associated membership and, while you normally need to be a full member to participate, they were allowed to participate in Eurovision in 2015, during its 60 year anniversary. It was originally supposed to be a one time thing but people were so happy with the involvement that they were allowed to become regular.

So yeah, the competition is called that, simply because they never envisioned for it to expand beyond Europe. Maybe they will consider changing the name at some point but there will probably be some dissent over such an idea, since this has been going on since the 50s and the name has become very traditional.

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Ok. Adding on, I just spotted this fantastic broadcast from UK.



I just love how when we cut back to the news room, how the anchors are just leaning in with a "wtf" face.
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A guilty pleasure of mine! I watched this show back then when I was a kid. I still watch it today. A tradition which is not going to die ;D


Product Placement:So, my country decided that there are too many lovey dovey songs, every year, so we opted for a BDSM themed ditty, called "Hatred will prevail"

One of my favorites this year! xD


...a shame Portugal didn't make it.
I mean, first I went like "What the f... Oh dear... This sound just terrible!" But then I went like "Wait... actually, it sounds pretty interesting... .... .... ..... Oh crap I fear I actually like this"

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Miaubol:...a shame Portugal didn't make it.

Especially since, in 1979, the playing of the Portuguese Eurovision song was the cue for the revolution that restored democratic rule.
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And they say Eurovision can't get political.
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Product Placement:No. It's always the same song.



...since about 1964, it seems ! B-)

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Lee M:Especially since, in 1979, the playing of the Portuguese Eurovision song was the cue for the revolution that restored democratic rule.


1974 actually - the year I got married .

Actually that was a very sweet, bloodless, socialist coup, where the old fascist dictator (who was going a bit 'gaga' anyway) wasn't told there'd even been a coup, and was allowed to live on in his palace, where they gave him regular papers to sign, so he still thought he was in charge !

Hmmm.....there's another candidate I know for doing that to.... but I digress

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Product Placement:It's still pretty much centered around Europe, with the noticeably glaring exception, that is Australia. As the competition has grown, more and more eastern block and middle east countries ....
When Eurovision was first set up, the only rule for entry was that the country's representative is a member of the union...


Then you get weird anomalies, like Celine Dion singing for Switzerland or whatever.

What is the significance of the grey and paler blue on your map, Prod' ?
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Bear:What is the significance of the grey and paler blue on your map, Prod' ?

I did note under the picture that light blue are associate members. Grey are countries that do not have any form of membership in the European Broadcasting Union.

As for Celine Dion, that happened way back when I was a little kid. I vaguely remember people complaining about it, but she has a dual citizenship in France and is a native French speaker and there's no rule on restricting the nationality of the singer.
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This show jumped the shark when we had a turkey puppet in a gold coloured shopping cart make it in. Your welcome world.
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Congratulations Netherlands!

My top three faves Norway, Iceland and Switzerland made it pretty well, thanks to the public votes. Actually, Norway even won the public voting. Just for some reason the jury voters didn't like them very much. They liked Sweden and North Macedonia instead, which were not very well liked by the public. Weird :P


Cooke:This show jumped the shark when we had a turkey puppet in a gold coloured shopping cart make it in.

Lol!
They didn't make it very far though ;D
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Rightfully so.
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I haven't seen Eurovision this year, (usually do, but didn't because reasons, maybe next year :c) but I have seen the UK's entry and oh boy.

Those lyrics are so bad it's embarassing. It's like someone analysed every pop song ever, averaged out the blandest, most cliche lines and used them all. I know we have a time honoured tradition of not trying by this point, but really?
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JammyTheBirb: I have seen the UK's entry and oh boy.

Those lyrics are so bad it's embarassing. It's like someone analysed every pop song ever, averaged out the blandest, most cliche lines and used them all. really?


Yes, that's the whole point of Eurovision, isn't it ? Never include a song that is good enough to actually be a proper, original hit in its own right !!! B-)

Since we only had 3 channels at the time, I used to often get sucked into watching the bloody thing when I was.....well it was the late 60s / eary 70s , the same way I eventually failed to escape
"The Sound Of Music" one Xmas at the mother-in-law's, having been plied with grog and ended up trapped in an armchair in the corner. Not my fault ! Life can be so unfair B-)
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Eurovision has always been about politics, not music.

My country didn't even qualify for the final, haha. our song was much better than the bore who won. Didn't have a reason to watch it this year...
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i actually like hatrid mun sigra for real, and not just as a eurovision song that's a cut above the rest.

if i understood correctly, it won the public vote but no country gave it points, which speaks volumes.
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taikina:i actually like hatrid mun sigra for real, and not just as a eurovision song that's a cut above the rest.

Same here. After all, been intro industrial, aggrotech, EBM and similar for a good while now.


if i understood correctly, it won the public vote but no country gave it points, which speaks volumes.

The public voting ("televote") consists just like the jury voting of votes from all 41 countries, point are given the same way (12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1). You can see all votes on the wikipedia page.

Iceland got 186 points from the public while only 48 points from the jury. Norway got entirely 291 points from the public, while only 47 points from the jury.
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