"Advice on crowdfunding and working with another artist?", Two weeks ago, 5:08 AM #1
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Hi gamers! I've been gone a few years, but I've matured and am returning with 100x more seriousness about my comic than ever before. I'd super appreciate if you can be my sounding boards for my crazy plan which actually may be pretty normal. I've usually worked alone until now and I don't generally enjoy working with other peoples' money, and I do not want to mess this up.
(In case you remember my comic, no you don't, I'm making a new plan and starting fresh)
The biggest thing that stops me from feeling like professional-level comic creation is feasible is the thought of drawing backgrounds. I can draw neat backgrounds, but it's the furthest thing from what I enjoy. So, why don't I get an artist to assist with BGs? (Edit: Yeah, I've spent years finding shortcuts for BGs and have made massive progress, it still doesn't stop being just as painful to me lmao)
Today I started formulating a plan: to pay an assistant artist by crowdfunding each 1-2 chapters. Unfortunately, I've only crowdfunded something once and want to be as secure as possible in this decision, which is why I'm looking for everyone's thoughts before I start making moves towards it. I'll have more specific questions at the end, but I'm laying out my plan here.
So first, I'll figure out how much money I'll need for a single chapter. This may be after I pick an artist and discuss payment with them, or else I'll estimate a good budget to shoot for.
Once I have a target, I'll make the crowdfunding campaign; I have a decently sized twitter following and can imagine it having the chance to fund one chapter. (I hope, or else I'll have to start saving HARD)
IF the campaign goes through, I'll pay the lovely artist to work with me for however much of the comic I can afford. At whatever point seems reasonable, I'll launch another campaign to fund the next 1-2 chapters. Does this sound right so far?
If the crowdfund doesn't hit the goal, np, everyone gets their money back. If I don't have money, the artist doesn't work. If the artist doesn't work, I just do the BGs myself. Providing there are no obvious problems I'm blind to, I don't see why I wouldn't try. This is all assuming I even find an artist, which I don't expect with 100% certainty, but there are millions of people out there.
As for the drawing process, my plan is the following:
1. Insert all the borders for a page or chapter, 2. thumbnail the scenery with enough detail to provide a clear understanding of what the end results should look like (perspective, rough sketch of scenery, include instructions), 3. sketch my characters in and add speech bubbles, 4. hand it over to the artist to properly sketch the BGs, then 5. take it back, line/color the BGs and finish drawing my characters in. The process may vary but that's a rough idea.
Again, I'm not experienced in working with others, so let me know if you see any potential issues! That aside, here are my more specific questions.
1. Do you have a recommendation as to where to host the crowdfunding campaign? I am only familiar with Kickstarter, and it seems like it'd work but don't want to miss something better.
2. What are your recommendations for writing the contract, like websites to use? Does anything crucial come to mind that we should add?
3. (providing the artist is flexible regarding payment), How do I ensure I'm paying the artist a correct and fair amount for the work they do? As far as my understanding goes, pricing by the hour is difficult for work like this, where a dishonest artist could claim they're spending way more time working than they actually are. (Not that I've met an artist like this lol, I just don't want to leave any room for potential problems.) Beyond asking the artist themselves about how to approach payment, I'm not sure what to suggest or expect.
Thank you so much guys! I feel a step closer to finally creating the story that's driven me nuts since 2014 <3
More importantly, I have over 690 posts in this forum, nice!!!
(In case you remember my comic, no you don't, I'm making a new plan and starting fresh)
The biggest thing that stops me from feeling like professional-level comic creation is feasible is the thought of drawing backgrounds. I can draw neat backgrounds, but it's the furthest thing from what I enjoy. So, why don't I get an artist to assist with BGs? (Edit: Yeah, I've spent years finding shortcuts for BGs and have made massive progress, it still doesn't stop being just as painful to me lmao)
Today I started formulating a plan: to pay an assistant artist by crowdfunding each 1-2 chapters. Unfortunately, I've only crowdfunded something once and want to be as secure as possible in this decision, which is why I'm looking for everyone's thoughts before I start making moves towards it. I'll have more specific questions at the end, but I'm laying out my plan here.
So first, I'll figure out how much money I'll need for a single chapter. This may be after I pick an artist and discuss payment with them, or else I'll estimate a good budget to shoot for.
Once I have a target, I'll make the crowdfunding campaign; I have a decently sized twitter following and can imagine it having the chance to fund one chapter. (I hope, or else I'll have to start saving HARD)
IF the campaign goes through, I'll pay the lovely artist to work with me for however much of the comic I can afford. At whatever point seems reasonable, I'll launch another campaign to fund the next 1-2 chapters. Does this sound right so far?
If the crowdfund doesn't hit the goal, np, everyone gets their money back. If I don't have money, the artist doesn't work. If the artist doesn't work, I just do the BGs myself. Providing there are no obvious problems I'm blind to, I don't see why I wouldn't try. This is all assuming I even find an artist, which I don't expect with 100% certainty, but there are millions of people out there.
As for the drawing process, my plan is the following:
1. Insert all the borders for a page or chapter, 2. thumbnail the scenery with enough detail to provide a clear understanding of what the end results should look like (perspective, rough sketch of scenery, include instructions), 3. sketch my characters in and add speech bubbles, 4. hand it over to the artist to properly sketch the BGs, then 5. take it back, line/color the BGs and finish drawing my characters in. The process may vary but that's a rough idea.
Again, I'm not experienced in working with others, so let me know if you see any potential issues! That aside, here are my more specific questions.
1. Do you have a recommendation as to where to host the crowdfunding campaign? I am only familiar with Kickstarter, and it seems like it'd work but don't want to miss something better.
2. What are your recommendations for writing the contract, like websites to use? Does anything crucial come to mind that we should add?
3. (providing the artist is flexible regarding payment), How do I ensure I'm paying the artist a correct and fair amount for the work they do? As far as my understanding goes, pricing by the hour is difficult for work like this, where a dishonest artist could claim they're spending way more time working than they actually are. (Not that I've met an artist like this lol, I just don't want to leave any room for potential problems.) Beyond asking the artist themselves about how to approach payment, I'm not sure what to suggest or expect.
Thank you so much guys! I feel a step closer to finally creating the story that's driven me nuts since 2014 <3
More importantly, I have over 690 posts in this forum, nice!!!
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